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roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 09:36
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by akoscielski3 (Post 1075311)
Through Parents! The best sponsors have been were parents work. My dads company started sponsoring our team in i think 2005 when my brother started... they are know our biggest sponsor, and donated our pits, Robot parts, vehichles for compeitions, gas money for competitions, and LOTS of money :) . try to find which parents are extremely deicated to helping out and see if their company will sponsor the team.

We are also trying to start another FRC team in Windsor, Onatrio so its not to far if u are in michigan. my team is from windsor and we are the only team for another two hours, besides crossing the border.

Good luck :)
Parents is a great idea! :) Wow I have so many teams around me lol i could name like 6 in driving distance. I hope to see you at competition. haha

staplemonx 30-08-2011 10:06
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
Try and find some mentors from this list (http://www.michiganbusiness.us/index...ind=Pontiac)in addition to parents. I think if you establish your expectations up front with your mentors than you should be fine.

I highly recommend a structures and an electronics engineer as a minimum since they will be able to teach you the things you will need to do the work on your own.

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 10:08
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Originally Posted by staplemonx (Post 1075314)
Where are you?
Im from Pontiac Michigan, but the team will be out of Royal Oak

BrendanB 30-08-2011 12:40
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by roboticsgoof95 (Post 1075309)
Thanks!!! Whats the best way to approach sponsors?

Parents are a great start! Check out for local grants in your area and NASA offers grants for rookie teams starting up. Visiting the sponsors themselves are a great way to fund raise as a face to face conversation can many times be more productive than a letter or email.

In some situations face to face isn't an option or you need to leave something behind with a potential sponsor.

http://www.team3467.org/files/5513/0...Team3467-r.pdf

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 12:48
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
Thanks, I will definitely go thru this very carefully and definitely take notes. :)

steelerborn 30-08-2011 12:54
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
Make sure you find some great teams in your area to help answer any questions that may come up (about the robot, game, CAD, code, etc.) But make sure that your team designs their own bot, and not just get a clone or twin from another team. I think that the kids learn a lot more by doing things themselves even if they don't do well in competition. The feeling that this is YOUR bot that the team spent 6 weeks on, is a great feeling :) and that's what FIRST is all about.

Good luck, and have fun!

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 13:02
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by steelerborn (Post 1075330)
Make sure you find some great teams in your area to help answer any questions that may come up (about the robot, game, CAD, code, etc.) But make sure that your team designs their own bot, and not just get a clone or twin from another team. I think that the kids learn a lot more by doing things themselves even if they don't do well in competition. The feeling that this is YOUR bot that the team spent 6 weeks on, is a great feeling :) and that's what FIRST is all about.

Good luck, and have fun!
so should we research other bots from previous years and use the idea but not the whole bot?

steelerborn 30-08-2011 13:10
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
There is a big difference between looking at other bots as inspiration, and using the same exact parts. Use the time now to build connections and get kids playing with some kind of CAD software. I meant you should design, manufacture, and build your own bot, and just not go to another team and have them build their bot for you. There is nothing wrong with having a bot that can only do one thing, but do it very well. KISS (Keep It Simple Silly) is probably the most important rule for a rookie team.

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 13:13
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by steelerborn (Post 1075339)
There is a big difference between looking at other bots as inspiration, and using the same exact parts. Use the time now to build connections and get kids playing with some kind of CAD software. I meant you should design, manufacture, and build your own bot, and just not go to another team and have them build their bot for you. There is nothing wrong with having a bot that can only do one thing, but do it very well. KISS (Keep It Simple Silly) is probably the most important rule for a rookie team.
Sounds great!! thanks this was very helpful! lol i guess we can be a big help to each other then.:)

Joe G. 30-08-2011 13:17
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Taking the ideas of others from past years, and figuring out how to best combine and apply them to the current game, is a key part of the challenge.

Also, note that duplicating another team's design is harder than it looks. When you see a picture or video, you see the end result, not the hundreds of hours of experimentation and engineering that went into that result. You get to do that part yourself. But that's the fun part. :)

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 13:21
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by Joe G. (Post 1075343)
Taking the ideas of others from past years, and figuring out how to best combine and apply them to the current game, is a key part of the challenge.

Also, note that duplicating another team's design is harder than it looks. When you see a picture or video, you see the end result, not the hundreds of hours of experimentation and engineering that went into that result. You get to do that part yourself. But that's the fun part. :)
good point! :) well i guess we just gotta throw some things together.

lemiant 30-08-2011 13:37
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by steelerborn (Post 1075339)
There is a big difference between looking at other bots as inspiration, and using the same exact parts. Use the time now to build connections and get kids playing with some kind of CAD software. I meant you should design, manufacture, and build your own bot, and just not go to another team and have them build their bot for you
He's just grinding on an old CD argument here. It almost certainly doesn't apply to you.

roboticsgoof95 30-08-2011 13:39
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1075348)
He's just grinding on an old CD argument here. It almost certainly, doesn't apply to you at all.
What do you mean?:confused:

lemiant 30-08-2011 14:03
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by roboticsgoof95 (Post 1075349)
What do you mean?:confused:
Search "collaboration chiefdelphi" on google, there should be some threads discussing it. They stay civil for the first few pages and start to fall apart after that. If it peaks your interest you can look up the triplets, as they are the most often cited example.

akoscielski3 30-08-2011 14:09
Re: rookie team (PLEASE HELP!)
 
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Originally Posted by roboticsgoof95 (Post 1075349)
What do you mean?:confused:
I have to say that they were pretty darn good robots. Seeing them play in Toronto (my first regional to watch i was in gr 5 i think) was pretty darn cool. But it did take part of the fun away form it. :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Niagarafirst.jpg


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