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ChuckDickerson 03-09-2011 22:32

Pool Noodles
 
Just a friendly reminder that now is the best time of year to stock up on those pool noodles you know we are all going to need next January/February. The Labor Day weekend marks the end of summer so stores are putting summer pool toys on clearance. I've seen pool noodles as low as $0.25 on clearance this time of year. I checked 2 local Walmarts today and neither had any left. Target had a few on clearance for $0.98. Get 'em while they are cheap and still available!

Hallry 03-09-2011 22:47

Re: Pool Noodles
 
The GDC probably bought out those two Walmarts' pool noodles for the game elements for next year's water game. ;)

Colin P 03-09-2011 23:17

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Last year we had to try to find pool noodles in the middle of winter in the U.P.... NOT FUN :p
We'll be getting em earlier this year

Phyrxes 03-09-2011 23:30

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We bought a box from a pool supply company two years ago, I suspect we will be buying another box this fall. It was nice to have extras to take to events, since someone always ends up needing some.

akoscielski3 31-05-2012 09:01

Re: Pool Noodles
 
This may be a good time to get pool noodles for next year, as pool supplies are coming out and the stores are loaded with them.

FrankJ 31-05-2012 09:08

Re: Pool Noodles
 
In typical First style, Bill specifically refused to speculate on the need of noodles for next years bumpers in Bills Blog. Or was that a back handed way of suggesting to buy some? :)

Anyway noodles are cheap. Buying them now is cheap insurance.

JonathanZur1836 31-05-2012 09:34

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Pool noodles are stocked at pool supply stores more or less year round; I bought about 12 at my local Leslie's Pool Supplies in January and it was rather cheap if I remember correctly. But yeah, if you get the chance, getting them earlier can be cheaper and ensures that you have them for the coming build season.

Alan Anderson 31-05-2012 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonathanZur1836 (Post 1172101)
Pool noodles are stocked at pool supply stores more or less year round;...

Most of us don't live in southern California, Jonathan. Pool supply stores in north central Indiana probably do always have stock, but they're not open year round.

JohnBoucher 31-05-2012 09:45

Re: Pool Noodles
 
And for those that wait, AndyMark has them

AndyMark

mlantry 31-05-2012 09:54

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher (Post 1172103)
And for those that wait, AndyMark has them

AndyMark

Ah AndyMark and your $2 a piece pool noodles

yarden.saa 31-05-2012 10:04

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher (Post 1172103)
And for those that wait, AndyMark has them

AndyMark

We bought this year 2 pool noodles(in the winter) in the same price of 6 in andymark

Littleboy 31-05-2012 10:27

Re: Pool Noodles
 
And if you can't find any, steal the ones off your bumpers from this year, or another previous year. Just make sure they are long enough.

dag0620 31-05-2012 12:03

Re: Pool Noodles
 
I know our team purchased a bulk box of pool noodles a few years ago. We store them in our loft and just take from them when we build our bumpers of use them for nicer astetchic bumpers in the off-season. Although Bill can speculate back and forth, it's safe to assume bumpers are here to stay, in some way or form.

JaneYoung 31-05-2012 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dag0620 (Post 1172123)
Although Bill can speculate back and forth, it's safe to assume bumpers are here to stay, in some way or form.

That's using your noodle. :D

Jane

Joe Ross 31-05-2012 12:14

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1172096)
In typical First style, Bill specifically refused to speculate on the need of noodles for next years bumpers in Bills Blog. Or was that a back handed way of suggesting to buy some? :)

He's been explicit the past two years about buying pool noodles.

2010
Quote:

Robots will be required to have bumpers, so buy your pool noodles now while they are still in season.
2011
Quote:

We know enough about what the game will look like to want to remind everyone, “’tis the season to buy pool noodles”.
I suspect the reason he isn't saying anything this year is because of the rethinking of the bumper rules that was mentioned at FRC Live this year.

Mark McLeod 31-05-2012 13:37

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2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill's Blog 5/30/12
I was asked if teams should purchase pool noodles for their 2013 robot bumpers now while pool supplies are more readily available, but I honestly can’t answer that question. The rules around robot bumpers will be released along with the Game Manual at Kickoff, so in the meantime, do what you think is best regarding stockpiling floatation devices for your robot.


BrendanB 31-05-2012 13:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 1172126)
I suspect the reason he isn't saying anything this year is because of the rethinking of the bumper rules that was mentioned at FRC Live this year.

GDC say what? ;)

Very interesting I wonder what they are thinking about for next years game. I really loved back in the day with no bumper rules where the robots looked and sounded better. They are nice now as we have less damage to our machines and I'm sure FIRST has less field damage each year as well!

Hmmm...

loyal 31-05-2012 22:32

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If you can't find noodles at pool supply stores or walmart, check pool equipment warehouses. If they don't have them, they will generally give you leads to companies who sell pool noodles, allowing you to buy them in bulk and probably cheaper.

Phyrxes 31-05-2012 22:57

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We'll probably just buy another one of our every other year boxes of pool noodles and call it done. If the GDC throws us a curveball we can use them for SeaPERCH or something else.

JonathanZur1836 01-06-2012 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1172102)
Most of us don't live in southern California, Jonathan. Pool supply stores in north central Indiana probably do always have stock, but they're not open year round.

You're completely right, I apologize for not taking that into account.

akoscielski3 01-06-2012 10:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1172102)
Most of us don't live in southern California, Jonathan. Pool supply stores in north central Indiana probably do always have stock, but they're not open year round.

Trust me. Canada does not have pool stores open during the winter...
lol

Foster 01-06-2012 10:59

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Mark highlighted the wrong part of Billl's message, I fixed it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill's Blog 5/30/12
I was asked if teams should purchase pool noodles for their 2013 robot bumpers now while pool supplies are more readily available, but I honestly can’t answer that question. The rules around robot bumpers will be released along with the Game Manual at Kickoff, so in the meantime, do what you think is best regarding stockpiling floatation devices for your robot.
And that means the water game is ON!

EricH 01-06-2012 14:49

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foster (Post 1172254)
Mark highlighted the wrong part of Billl's message, I fixed it.



And that means the water game is ON!

I was going to say, that settles it. On-water game. (As opposed to Under-water game.) The pool noodles are there to help keep the robot upright.

Camren 01-06-2012 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dag0620 (Post 1172123)
I know our team purchased a bulk box of pool noodles a few years ago. We store them in our loft and just take from them when we build our bumpers of use them for nicer astetchic bumpers in the off-season. Although Bill can speculate back and forth, it's safe to assume bumpers are here to stay, in some way or form.

Bumpers also make good game pieces for driver tryouts

Richard Wallace 01-06-2012 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by akoscielski3 (Post 1172094)
This may be a good time to get pool noodles for next year, ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1172096)
Anyway noodles are cheap. Buying them now is cheap insurance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1172102)
Pool supply stores in north central Indiana probably do always have stock, but they're not open year round.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher (Post 1172103)
And for those that wait, AndyMark has them

AndyMark

For the reasons given above, I added a box of pool noodles to my latest AndyMark order. They were delivered today, and are now stashed in the garage of my team's lead marketing mentor, who is also our bumper designer. We are good to go for next season.:cool:

DonRotolo 01-06-2012 21:07

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Foster (Post 1172254)
And that means the water game is ON!

Well, in the FRC Live presentation discussing game design, they DID have a member of the GDC on stage, and after she mentioned that the 2013 game was just about finalized, the stated very clearly and unequivocally:

Don't rule out a water bottle game.

Makes you think, eh?

FRC BOTMOM 03-06-2012 14:52

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Our local dollar tree has them in stock. last year they went on sale 2 for a dollar and I bought all they had for our team.

Bill_B 03-06-2012 17:56

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Make SURE you get the correct diameter noodles. Like everything else being sold these days, there are cut-rate dimensions in this product. You know like the 30 oz. mayonnaise jar instead of 32 oz.. or the non-half gallon ice cream containers. Don't let the first measurement of your noodled bumpers be at the tournament inspection station.

Andrew Schreiber 04-06-2012 14:35

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1172510)
Make SURE you get the correct diameter noodles. Like everything else being sold these days, there are cut-rate dimensions in this product. You know like the 30 oz. mayonnaise jar instead of 32 oz.. or the non-half gallon ice cream containers. Don't let the first measurement of your noodled bumpers be at the tournament inspection station.

And if it is... don't yell at the inspector when you have to redo them.

Steven Sigley 05-06-2012 00:10

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Anyone thought about the possibility that we won't even NEED bumpers?

What if the game has the robots separated in partitions of the field.
Without robot against robot action, bumpers might not be required.

Just an idea.

ttldomination 05-06-2012 08:06

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 1172713)
What if the game has the robots separated in partitions of the field.
Without robot against robot action, bumpers might not be required.

Just an idea.

Not a bad idea. I'd really enjoy seeing the VEX clean sweep style game applied at the FRC level.

However, surely one has to take into account that many rookies, and even some vets, sometimes field a driving base because that's all they could manage. But raising a partition and essentially eliminating defense, you really take all of these bots out of the game.

- Sunny G.

Ekcrbe 05-06-2012 09:15

Re: Pool Noodles
 
I'm going to butcher this, but I believe it was Jim Zondag who said something like, "If FIRST wants FRC to be considered a real sport, then the GDC needs to start treating it like one." I think they have started down that path, and creating a game with no defense would push FRC in the other dierection. Not only does it make the game less strategic to play, it's also less fun to watch.

Sorry, back to the topic now.

EricH 05-06-2012 12:40

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekcrbe (Post 1172752)
[...] and creating a game with no defense would push FRC in the other dierection. Not only does it make the game less strategic to play, it's also less fun to watch.

They won't do that again. You didn't hear about the chorus after 2001? Few people actually liked that game... the most fun part about it was "Can they balance before they hit the E-stop?"

Jenn Feathers 05-06-2012 14:36

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1172288)
I was going to say, that settles it. On-water game. (As opposed to Under-water game.) The pool noodles are there to help keep the robot upright.

Hmmmmm... How about a Formula - 1 Power Boat Racing-ish type game???

Bill_B 05-06-2012 21:56

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Many comics have pointed out various aspects of the use of the name sport for some of our recreational activities. According to some, golf is not a sport because there's no one trying to keep the ball out of the hole. Fishing is not a sport because it relies on fooling a vastly less capable nervous system that food is available. Weightlifting - pick up a heavy weight, put it down again. Not sport - it's indecision!

I'm not sure going after a sport metaphor is as desirable a goal as is possible.

Ekcrbe 05-06-2012 23:06

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1172766)
They won't do that again. You didn't hear about the chorus after 2001? Few people actually liked that game... the most fun part about it was "Can they balance before they hit the E-stop?"

That's a decade before my time, but I've heard stories and seen videos that would point to that conclusion.

To take the hypotenuse (sorry, inside joke), it looks like bumpers are here to stay--water game or not--so get ready.

Alexandro8100 07-09-2012 14:35

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1172748)
Not a bad idea. I'd really enjoy seeing the VEX clean sweep style game applied at the FRC level.

However, surely one has to take into account that many rookies, and even some vets, sometimes field a driving base because that's all they could manage. But raising a partition and essentially eliminating defense, you really take all of these bots out of the game.

- Sunny G.

I'm totally agree with you.You'r 100% good here that surely one has to take into account that many rookies, and even some vets, sometimes field a driving base because that's all they could manage.
You really take all of these bots out of the game.

Hallry 07-09-2012 15:49

Re: Pool Noodles
 
Referring back to the OP....now is a great time to stock up on pool noodles for bumpers. I just bought out the entire supply at the local A&P; they were only $0.50 each!

Daniel Felix 08-09-2012 20:03

Re: Pool Noodles
 
We have a bulk sized box buried away some where as well as an apparatus we threw together to help make bumpers. Can't imagine we wont have enough for the next year, but now that I think about it...
Redoing beaten and torn veteran robot bumpers,
Next years robot,
Teams looking to redo bumpers at regionals...
Now that I think about it tis the season!


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