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CarlosGJ 20-09-2011 18:24

paper: 418's Mini-Encabulator
 
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418's Mini-Encabulator by CarlosGJ

Coach Norm 20-09-2011 18:26

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I am so disappointed to see this posted since you have taken our technology.

Danny Diaz 20-09-2011 19:05

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Now hold on there, it was given to us (at an extremely high velocity) while attempting to collect money for "Snots for Bots" (hey, robots don't have mucus glands of their own, and they feel bad about that!) - I still have a bruise on my tush from the impact, if you want I can prove it! We even tried to sell the device, but unfortunately everyone thought we were trying to sell overpriced light bulbs instead so nobody wanted to touch it. So we opened it up and peeled off the bubble gum (thanks, Cherry was my favorite) and decided to tinker with it a bit. If you remember the last couple projects you guys had, like the "portable excombobulator", the "hypercartographic depictionator", and the "Ham Sandwich" - we improved on them in such a way that make them easy to understand, easy to find, and tasty (respectively, of course - you guys in South Austin never use enough mustard); we figured we could do the same to this as well. You'll find that the internals look nothing like your original device - we used grape bubblegum chewed TWICE - so that certainly is enough to allow us to claim it as our own.

By the way, we are still accepting donations for our campaign drive. See Bertucci for more information. :rolleyes:

-Danny

Andrew Schreiber 20-09-2011 19:35

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Well, I'm more confused than usual. Must be game hint season.

IKE 20-09-2011 20:42

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I am a bit confused by the wiring diagram. I was under the assumption that a "mini-enCABulator" ran on CANCAB which is faster, and more direct, but considerably more expensive than CANBUS.
My guess is someone is using the SSEP (seinfeld status enhancement protocol) for the message delivery. SSEP uses CANBUS for the majority of the trip, but switches to CANCAB right before exchange of information that way the recipient thinks the message is more important because it uses CANCAB.
It has been my experience that SSEP sounds great in theory, but requires an open CAB near the exchange point. All too often this results in long waits and longer total message delivery times. While the Status is higher, the extended period (and possible tardiness) negate the benefits of the CANBUS/CAB strategy.
Both of these systems suffer schedule issues due to high traffic or adverse environmental conditions. Thus I am hoping FRC someday adopts a more stable system like LightRail (high volume, efficient, and reliable in Europe). I think the added weight of 2-3 rails is worth it for its stability. I heard rumors there might even be an IFI MONORAIL system that only uses one continuous strand of wire for both power and control. Say it with me folks: "MONORAIL" Until MONORAIL, I would be cautious of using the mini-enCABulator.

Now, another controls item I would be interested in is supposedly being worked on not too far from Kettering University. With the minibots, an additional wireless connection is needed, so I heard rumors abothat the Wreless Bridge we use could be replaced with a Wireless Tridge being worked on in mid-michigan. Anyone hear anymore details on the Tridge?

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I should warn you folks, I am a an ME, and the above information is my interpretation of what I overheard our programmers talking about. If this information is not 100% correct, you should follow the default advice I have for when anything goes wrong:
Blame the Programmers

Andrew Lawrence 20-09-2011 21:57

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So for us non-electrical people, can you explain what it does?

s1900ahon 20-09-2011 23:04

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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1077851)
So for us non-electrical people, can you explain what it does?

Stuff. Important stuff. :)

Alan Anderson 20-09-2011 23:16

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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1077851)
So for us non-electrical people, can you explain what it does?

If the phrase "modial interaction of magneto reluctance and capacitive diractance" doesn't explain it well enough, I'm pretty sure you don't have the background to understand it at all.

JaneYoung 20-09-2011 23:36

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1077864)
If the phrase "modial interaction of magneto reluctance and capacitive diractance" doesn't explain it well enough, I'm pretty sure you don't have the background to understand it at all.

That would be me.

PAR_WIG1350 20-09-2011 23:38

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1077864)
If the phrase "modial interaction of magneto reluctance and capacitive diractance" doesn't explain it well enough, I'm pretty sure you don't have the background to understand it at all.

I could not have said it better myself.

Taylor 21-09-2011 11:40

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Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 1077868)
That would be me.

Wait - weren't you one of the authors?
I'm so confused. It's like I'm stuck in a purple fog (or something like that).

Chris is me 21-09-2011 11:43

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1077864)
If the phrase "modial interaction of magneto reluctance and capacitive diractance" doesn't explain it well enough, I'm pretty sure you don't have the background to understand it at all.

If one can't clearly and concisely state the benefit and application of a device to a common person, is it really that useful?

A non-programmer might not know what PID is, but they can tell you it makes arms more controllable. What's this thing do?

Aren_Hill 21-09-2011 11:44

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It confuses people, while creating energy from nothingness

Taylor 21-09-2011 12:18

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1077916)
If one can't clearly and concisely state the benefit and application of a device to a common person, is it really that useful?

Yes. For example: the mini-encabulator.

JaneYoung 21-09-2011 12:18

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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1077914)
Wait - weren't you one of the authors?
I'm so confused. It's like I'm stuck in a purple fog (or something like that).

Haze. Purple Haze.

I live it every day.

Jane

P.S. There's no way out... believe me, I've tried.
P.P.S. Just don't ask Danny for any tips on how to drive a robot. We would surely be doomed.

Jimmy Nichols 21-09-2011 12:57

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DO you plan on mass producing these for sale on Andymark.com?

I know we could have used one last year.

RogerR 21-09-2011 13:01

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For those of us with more visual learning styles, check this video for a bit more background on the turbo encabulator (a predecessor):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o

Andrew Schuetze 22-09-2011 08:45

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Originally Posted by RogerR (Post 1077938)
For those of us with more visual learning styles, check this video for a bit more background on the turbo encabulator (a predecessor):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o

an updated version of the original device.
http://youtu.be/fIVXw4n2g_0
:D

Chris is me 22-09-2011 10:43

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I finally decided to give this a try, but it was a new moon, so I didn't have much success. Is the logarithmic casing really essential?

PAR_WIG1350 22-09-2011 18:52

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1078124)
I finally decided to give this a try, but it was a new moon, so I didn't have much success. Is the logarithmic casing really essential?

I heard somewhere of experiments with quartic casings, but there were mixed results.

flameout 23-09-2011 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1078124)
I finally decided to give this a try, but it was a new moon, so I didn't have much success. Is the logarithmic casing really essential?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350
I heard somewhere of experiments with quartic casings, but there were mixed results.

You can use one of a custom Taylor'd series of polynomial casings. In order to conserve such advanced designs as the lotus-odeltoid designs (not to mention the quartic ones), it takes four orders to acquire such technology.

The disadvantage of using such a case is poor performance during trigonometric skor motions. If these are required, then a truly logarithmic casing is, in fact, essential.

IKE 23-09-2011 15:58

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Originally Posted by flameout (Post 1078302)
You can use one of a custom Taylor'd series of polynomial casings. In order to conserve such advanced designs as the lotus-odeltoid designs (not to mention the quartic ones), it takes four orders to acquire such technology.

The disadvantage of using such a case is poor performance during trigonometric skor motions. If these are required, then a truly logarithmic casing is, in fact, essential.

Does it really take 4 orders to acquire one? Sounds like an E commerce issue. Or do these suffer from the 775 bb issue where 3/4 casings are short.

PAR_WIG1350 23-09-2011 20:19

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Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1078311)
Does it really take 4 orders to acquire one? Sounds like an E commerce issue. Or do these suffer from the 775 bb issue where 3/4 casings are short.

I believe he was using a different definition of "order".

DonRotolo 23-09-2011 21:46

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1078124)
Is the logarithmic casing really essential?

Not really but it's the easiest.
What kind of memory did you use? It does specify Write-Only Memory, which is getting hard to find these days now that NatSemi has gone to the 23 nanometer process.

PAR_WIG1350 23-09-2011 23:02

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1078370)
Not really but it's the easiest.
What kind of memory did you use? It does specify Write-Only Memory, which is getting hard to find these days now that NatSemi has gone to the 23 nanometer process.

Don't be silly, hardly anything ever used write only memory anyways. It's as if it simply vanished into thin air only moments after it was first created. It is much more likely that it uses Heisenberg memory, but I can't be certain about that.

Jimmy Nichols 26-09-2012 11:54

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PAR_WIG1350 26-09-2012 21:19

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 1187403)
Has anyone found issues with the logarithmic casing? We found that the cosinusoidal tangial waves that it creates interruption the dynamic goinometric continium. We tried a sinusoidal cotangial wave supressor but we got mixed results.

Tangial isn't even a word, I think you mean tangential, also, even with that correction, none of what you said suggests you have any experience with encabulators of any sort. Also, you grammar and syntax skills seem to suddenly disappear in the second sentence only to return in the third, typically a sign of stopping to look stuff up mid-sentence only to forget where one left off.


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