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Frenchie461 27-09-2011 22:17

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Andrew Lawrence 27-09-2011 22:18

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Why are you using the motors apart, with 4 separate gearboxes?

MattC9 27-09-2011 22:30

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Hmmm, looks like a 624 drive, they are notorious for using dewalts like this. Let me try and find you a few pics it might help. Also how would the chain run work?

Jeffy 27-09-2011 22:39

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Sorta WCD is sorta cool.


I kid, wanna give us some details please?

EricH 27-09-2011 22:49

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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1078926)
Why are you using the motors apart, with 4 separate gearboxes?

Function of a DeWalt 3-speed--you can really only fit one motor to a gearbox without adding another gearbox on top of it to join the motors. Why would you need the extra speed? Let's see--extra push, easier transition to high gear, and LUDICROUS SPEED!

It wouldn't hurt to add a chain run to make sure that each side gets both motors powering all the wheels together. I realize that those aren't shown, but it may be worth having if weight (and the field) allow.

Hawiian Cadder 28-09-2011 07:11

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I am currious as to what ratios are in those dewalts. If i remember correctly it is something like 1-12, 1-16, 1-42. what ratio are you thinking of using for the chain, and what fps does it go?

Chris is me 28-09-2011 08:02

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Originally Posted by Hawiian Cadder (Post 1078966)
I am currious as to what ratios are in those dewalts. If i remember correctly it is something like 1-12, 1-16, 1-42. what ratio are you thinking of using for the chain, and what fps does it go?

I believe with CIMs most people remove a stage to make the transmissions run at 1:3 1:4 1:12.

Hawiian Cadder 28-09-2011 09:00

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1078981)
I believe with CIMs most people remove a stage to make the transmissions run at 1:3 1:4 1:12.

Ahh, that is correct, My experience is with a dewalt and fisher-price pairing.

This also makes a lot of sense because the first stage is held together largely by the plastic casing, while the deeper in stages are much more secure.

Frenchie461 28-09-2011 15:53

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Just to clarify the ratios on the dewalts with the first stage removed are 12:1, 4:1, and 3:1. These are further reduced by a 22:32 sprocket reduction giving speeds of 5, 13, and 17fps (Thank you JVN for your design calculator). The chain is run past 2 idlers to put the sprocket on the drive motor in the right place to only use 1 chain rather than one for each wheel.

Frenchie461 28-09-2011 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1078934)
It wouldn't hurt to add a chain run to make sure that each side gets both motors powering all the wheels together. I realize that those aren't shown, but it may be worth having if weight (and the field) allow.

I'll try that, but that doesn't work quite as well with performance wheels, so I'll probably change those to plactions in the center 2.

PAR_WIG1350 28-09-2011 18:47

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Originally Posted by Frenchie461 (Post 1079053)
The chain is run past 2 idlers to put the sprocket on the drive motor in the right place to only use 1 chain rather than one for each wheel.

Wait, one chain per side or one chain per motor and the 2 closest wheels? While the latter sounds fine, I would not advise the former due to the fact that a single failure would render the robot un-steerable. If two chains are used per side, on the other hand, there is at least some degree of redundancy.

Frenchie461 28-09-2011 21:08

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Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1079086)
Wait, one chain per side or one chain per motor and the 2 closest wheels? While the latter sounds fine, I would not advise the former due to the fact that a single failure would render the robot un-steerable. If two chains are used per side, on the other hand, there is at least some degree of redundancy.

1 chain per dewalt, which makes it 2 per side


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