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A couple of years ago there was this thread

Which led to this spreadsheet

If you look on row 56, you will see "teams / million students".

The data is out of date by over two years but you will get the idea.

Ed

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We're going to the most storied regional in FIRST next year. Wow.

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And that is?

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Must be the BAE Systems Granite State Regional in Manchester. :rolleyes:

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More than 400 new teams now.
2246 teams altogether.

Thanksgiving break usually kind of flat lines registration, but then there'll be a bump up before Registration closes the middle of next week.

FiM (at 170 teams) is 10 shy of their current maximum capacity.
MAR seems to have room for 6 more teams.

88% of the available slots are spoken for:

• 5 Regionals are full
• 29 Regionals are in the single digits
• 10 Regionals have room for more
• None of the Districts look like they're at maximum yet
• 8 Districts are in the single-digits

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Interesting how the FiM model (with its extra layer of weeding out) ends up sending a higher quality slate of robots to the Championship than the regional model does. Since MAR is running the same model with older, more experienced teams on average any thoughts on which of the two will have the greatest impact on Champs?

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There are 2251 teams visibly registered and Bill just mentioned there are only nine more that aren't listed for an Event yet.
Championships has dropped the first team from their list.

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A few of the missing Texas teams are now back along with several Rockies clearing registration. FTC registration has also really picked up in the last 10 days.

Texas combined FTC & FRC = 370!

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Here are the events with the highest percentage of Rookie teams attending.
Montreal should be exciting with a one-to-one match up of vets to rookies...

Total - Rookies - % rookies -- Event
36 ----- 18 ----- 50.00% ----- Montreal
51 ----- 18 ----- 35.30% ----- IL
58 ----- 19 ----- 32.80% ----- GA
43 ----- 14 ----- 32.60% ----- LA
64 ----- 20 ----- 31.30% ----- FL
39 ----- 11 ----- 28.20% ----- MO
40 ----- 11 ----- 27.50% ----- IN
63 ----- 17 ----- 27.00% ----- CA
41 ----- 11 ----- 26.80% ----- PIT
32 ------ 8 ----- 25.00% ----- Dallas-E
48 ----- 12 ----- 25.00% ----- TN
49 ----- 12 ----- 24.50% ----- TOR-W
30 ------ 7 ----- 23.30% ----- Dallas-W
35 ------ 8 ----- 22.90% ----- S. FL
52 ----- 11 ----- 21.20% ----- SDC
62 ----- 13 ----- 21.00% ----- N. Star
44 ------ 9 ----- 20.50% ----- UT
50 ----- 10 ----- 20.00% ----- MA
47 ------ 9 ----- 19.10% ----- WA-Olympic
38 ------ 7 ----- 18.40% ----- SC
46 ------ 8 ----- 17.40% ----- AZ
53 ------ 9 ----- 17.00% ----- TX
30 ------ 5 ----- 16.70% ----- TOR-E
62 ----- 10 ----- 16.10% ----- NYC
31 ------ 5 ----- 16.10% ----- WPI
64 ----- 10 ----- 15.60% ----- OR
57 ------ 8 ----- 14.00% ----- OH
53 ------ 7 ----- 13.20% ----- Queen
61 ------ 8 ----- 13.10% ----- Alamo
46 ------ 6 ----- 13.00% ----- SJC
46 ------ 6 ----- 13.00% ----- WA-Cascade
31 ------ 4 ----- 12.90% ----- WAT
32 ------ 4 ----- 12.50% ----- HI
41 ------ 5 ----- 12.20% ----- Spokane
50 ------ 6 ----- 12.00% ----- NC
46 ------ 5 ----- 10.90% ----- WI
65 ------ 7 ----- 10.80% ----- Lake S.
19 ------ 2 ----- 10.50% ----- MI-Niles
29 ------ 3 ----- 10.30% ----- MAR-Chestnut
40 ------ 4 ----- 10.00% ----- FLR
40 ------ 4 ----- 10.00% ----- MAR-MtOlive
57 ------ 5 ------ 8.80% ----- VA
35 ------ 3 ------ 8.60% ----- NV
36 ------ 3 ------ 8.30% ----- MI-West
39 ------ 3 ------ 7.70% ----- IS
29 ------ 2 ------ 6.90% ----- MI-Waterford
44 ------ 3 ------ 6.80% ----- CO
44 ------ 3 ------ 6.80% ----- CV
59 ------ 4 ------ 6.80% ----- MD
30 ------ 2 ------ 6.70% ----- MI-Troy
61 ------ 4 ------ 6.60% ----- 10K
33 ------ 2 ------ 6.10% ----- MAR-Lenape
33 ------ 2 ------ 6.10% ----- MI-Traverse
34 ------ 2 ------ 5.90% ----- MAR-Rutgers
51 ------ 3 ------ 5.90% ----- OK
54 ------ 3 ------ 5.60% ----- DC
36 ------ 2 ------ 5.60% ----- SAC
47 ------ 2 ------ 4.30% ----- LI
54 ------ 2 ------ 3.70% ----- KC
55 ------ 2 ------ 3.60% ----- CT
30 ------ 1 ------ 3.30% ----- MI-Northville
32 ------ 1 ------ 3.10% ----- MI-Kettering
33 ------ 1 ------ 3.00% ----- MAR-Hatboro
50 ------ 1 ------ 2.00% ----- NH
141 ----- 0 ------ 0.00% ----- CMP
28 ------ 0 ------ 0.00% ----- MI-Detroit
30 ------ 0 ------ 0.00% ----- MI-Livonia

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Chart for the raw numbers of the previous post.
For comparison overall, rookie's make up 18% of all teams. Right between SC and AZ on the chart.

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Oh yeah!:cool:

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You'll have a good time, GSR is a great regional. Drop by and say hi if you want!

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3 and a half days of Registration remain and after the Thanksgiving holiday we're sitting at 2269 teams.

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We have a new FIRST Kick-Off event in Peoria, IL at Bradley University.
Is there a way to find out who has signed up for the Kick-Off events?

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The kickoff coordinator for each local kickoff should have visibility into registered teams through the event management site.

-Brando

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I have a question. =)

We were on the waitlist for our local regional. The waitlist email from FIRST said we would receive an automated email if space opened up.

I checked this morning. The # of registered teams for the regional had increased and our teams name appeared on the list of registered teams on USFIRST.org..... BUT I never received the automated email saying we got off the waitlist.

Does this mean we're off the waitlist? Or do waitlisted teams also show up on the USFIRST.org Event's registered teams website?

Thanks!!:D

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Best way to get an answer is to email your Regional Director. You can find the contact information here: http://www.usfirst.org/regional-contacts

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Look on TIMS to see the status of your registration for events.
An email should have gone to the TIMS Main Contact, but there's always the possibility it got trapped somewhere.

Here's the one I got from our home regional. It includes an invoice:
TIMS gives you an accounting like the attached where you can see we are on the event list for SBPLI & Championship ("Registered"), but still on the waitlist for WPI ("Waitlist").
Edit/View gets you to the invoices.

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Thanks for the replies! I checked TIMS event section and it said we are registered. What a relief!

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Just reached 2300 teams.
That's

• A growth rate of 11.6% (just a smidgen under 2009's growth - only 3 other years have seen smaller growth though)
• 429 new teams, 18.6% of all 2012 season teams (surpassing last season's 411)
• 26 recovered defunct teams (14.8% recovery rate). The oldest after a 13 year hiatus
• But a 9.2% loss of veteran teams (216)

9 Events seem to have reached (or surpassed) maximum capacity (e.g., if you're waiting for NYC... you're probably out of luck)

32 hours remaining to register...

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Only a few official hours left to Registration.
A new rookie from Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany just signed-up.

Where missing veteran teams are from:
34 ---- TX
17 ---- CA
13 ---- Israel
10 ---- MI
9 ----- CANADA-ON
8 ----- NY
7 ----- FL
7 ----- NJ
6 ----- GA
6 ----- HI
6 ----- OH
6 ----- VA
5 ----- MA
5 ----- NC
5 ----- UT
5 ----- WA
4 ----- MO
4 ----- OK
4 ----- SC
4 ----- WI
3 ----- IL
3 ----- IN
3 ----- LA
3 ----- MD
3 ----- NH
3 ----- NV
3 ----- OR
3 ----- TN
2 ----- AL
2 ----- MS
1 ----- AR
1 ----- AZ
1 ----- CO
1 ----- CT
1 ----- ID
1 ----- KY
1 ----- ME
1 ----- Mexico
1 ----- MN
1 ----- ND
1 ----- PA
1 ----- PR
1 ----- Turkey
1 ----- WV

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Mark,
Do you know the typical loss rate after the first payment date?

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Registration is now closed.



2332 teams at the bell.

I do have numbers for team losses after registration closes, however, the interesting thing is that the number of teams is going to continue to rise through the next couple of weeks. FIRST seems to be forgiving with teams on the edge. You can see that in this plot posted last year.

I'll post a current year plot tomorrow.

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What is the cause of that weird dip in 2011 in January?

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Michigan teams getting shuffled, I think?

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There are already 141 teams registered for CMP? How are there so many?

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Washington State double-regional team shuffle. Teams came off the registered list for a few days as they evened out the rookies/veterans between the fields.

Actually a few teams have already declined and the number has dropped to 138. I just spoke to a team leader about their withdrawal last night as they were dropping a broken Classmate off at my house.

There was an open sign-up for 141 spare Championship slots in October as there has been every year. They went really fast though.
There are fewer offered each year-last year FIRST offered 149 open slots, the year before it was 175.

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Mark, There may still be some fluctuation in new teams over the next week or so. I know that FIRST is still working with some rookies in our region to get them on-board.

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Here's this season's registration chart.

You can see the teams that have been added since Registration officially closed peeking out to the right of the deadline.
These are all due to 5 more rookies that have appeared.

P.S.
17 more teams have now shown up since Registration closed.
I should note that they aren't all going to be rookies that show up late. Vets are still appearing too.
Teams are continuing to drop out as well.

FiM and MAR registration for 3rd events remains open until December 9.
Michigan has added the most rookies in the past two days (10).

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Does anyone know when we should expect to see the waitlist for events processed? I'm interested in DC...

George

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Most waitlists got moved by mid-December last year, but DC was an exception.
DC didn't clear until around New Year's.

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Something close to 400 FTC & FRC teams in Texas:D The list of non-returning teams has dwindled but still not a number that we all would like to see.:ahh: Most likely a great deal of work has been put in by the three Regional Directors, the now four FTC Affilate Partners, and the now two FIRST Senior Mentors and countless other members of Texas FIRST teams.
:)
We could also be experiencing some matriculation of FLL teams which has also skyrocketed in Texas in the last three years.

APS

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Argh. All I want for Christmas ...
:)

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Michigan rookies are showing up in droves finally.
The West Michigan District event is the first to be at full capacity.
FiM now has 189 teams showing, but only slots for 180...where will the next District event be? "Purchasing" spare slots from nearby Regionals and accrediting them for FiM, or an undersized District, or more recruiting to fill a new District?

Since (regular) registration closed there have been rookies added from:

• 12 MI
• 3 CO
• 2 Ontario
• 2 TX
• 8 other singletons

At least now new teams only get added during Manchester business hours, instead of all hours of the night in this globe spanning competition.

Me too!

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DC will clear the list much earlier this year. There were certain circumstances last year that forced the list to be cleared later. Those circumstances have been prevented this year.

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There has also been some room opened up at DC by teams dropping out this year.

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• 2360 Teams (it goes up and down 5 or 6 each day)
• 296 net gain (14.3% growth)
• 467 new teams (19.8% of all teams)
• 26 resurrected veteran teams (14.8% team recovery rate)
• -197 missing teams (91.72% adjusted retention rate)

Some tally's:

# - Rookies - Missing - Area
199 -- 37 ---- 17 ----- CA
190 -- 26 ----- 9 ----- MI
153 -- 23 ----- 1 ----- MN
151 -- 36 ---- 30 ----- TX
135 -- 16 ----- 8 ----- NY
97 --- 19 ----- 5 ----- WA
79 --- 21 ----- 9 ----- CANADA-ON
78 --- 28 ----- 7 ----- FL
67 ---- 5 ----- 6 ----- VA
65 --- 17 ----- 1 ----- PA
63 ---- 6 ----- 6 ----- NJ
58 ---- 9 ----- 5 ----- MA
58 --- 15 ----- 6 ----- OH
57 --- 16 ----- 3 ----- IL
56 ---- 8 ----- 4 ----- MO
48 ---- 3 ----- 4 ----- OK
47 --- 17 ----- 6 ----- GA
44 ---- 7 ----- 1 ----- AZ
44 --- 10 ----- 3 ----- OR
43 --- 12 ----- 3 ----- IN
42 ---- 1 ----- 1 ----- CT
41 ---- 6 ----- 1 ----- CO
40 ---- 4 ---- 13 ----- Israel
38 ---- 7 ----- 5 ----- NC
36 ---- 5 ----- 3 ----- MD
34 ---- 6 ----- 4 ----- WI
33 ---- 4 ----- 4 ----- HI
32 --- 18 ----- 0 ----- CANADA-QC
31 --- 10 ----- 3 ----- LA
31 ---- 9 ----- 4 ----- SC
30 ---- 1 ----- 3 ----- NH
26 --- 12 ----- 3 ----- TN
20 ---- 0 ----- 0 ----- KS
19 ---- 8 ----- 1 ----- Mexico
19 ---- 5 ----- 5 ----- UT
16 ---- 4 ----- 1 ----- ID
15 ---- 1 ----- 0 ----- DC
14 ---- 5 ----- 2 ----- AL
11 ---- 0 ----- 1 ----- KY
11 ---- 2 ----- 3 ----- NV
10 ---- 3 ----- 1 ----- ME
10 ---- 2 ----- 2 ----- MS
8 ----- 6 ----- 1 ----- AR
6 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- MT
6 ----- 3 ----- 0 ----- NM
5 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- Brazil
5 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- RI
5 ----- 2 ----- 1 ----- Turkey
4 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- IA
4 ----- 0 ----- 1 ----- WV
3 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- VT
3 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- WY
2 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- AK
2 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- CANADA-AB
2 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- DE
2 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- Germany
2 ----- 0 ----- 1 ----- ND
2 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- United Kingdom
1 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- Australia
1 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- CANADA-NS
1 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- Chile
1 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- Dominican Republic
1 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- Herzegovina
1 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- NE
1 ----- 0 ----- 1 ----- PR
1 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- Spain
1 ----- 1 ----- 0 ----- Taiwan

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Could we also see teams lost per region?

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I'm not sure I know what you're asking for.
How does that differ from "Missing"?

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It doesnt... :o I misread the column labels. Totally read the missing value as rookies. I'll go back to my rock now.

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Formatting these columns to line up and not be confusing takes more work than generating the data I swear.

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Representing data in a good way is an art in its own right.

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Here are charts of the areas with:

1. % Above average (>14.3%) gains this year
2. % Losses (<0%) this year
3. % Everyone
4. Raw numbers gain/loss of every area

Underpopulated areas float to the top, but of course it's also harder to start teams where there's no local support network.

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Those charts are a little misleading; it would seem as if New Mexico had a huge jump in teams, while they only gained 3 new rookies, and that Puerto Rico had a large loss, while only 1 team is from there not returning.

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Which shows an interesting point. Texas, having lost 30+ teams this year, is not on the graph at all. Perhaps this chart would be better as a pie chart of lost teams by area such as http://d.pr/Wv4 (CD's max upload size got me!)

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I tried a pie chart first of everyone, but it sort of just looks like a colored pinwheel with too many entries.

These kinds of plots are going to mostly show areas with few teams at both the upper and lower ends of the spectrum.
They can illuminate transistion areas where team loss/gain is more critical to reaching a self-supporting mass.
Larger established areas aren't at risk of dying from loss of teams while small areas are. Loss of teams in low-density areas = a lack of experienced support.

I suppose we could generate individual charts based on FRC team population catagories, e.g.,

1. 0 to 10 teams
2. 11 to 20
3. 21 to 50
4. 51 to 100
5. 101 to 200

I'll try a chart based on absolute number rather than % that sort of factors in the size of an area. (It's posted as part of the prior post)

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Some speculations on the pending new Michigan event.
Okay, so we know that Michigan must be looking for an additional District site, because they obviously don't fit right now.
That probably also means the existing event lists won't be completely straightened out until after the new event is settled.

Choice of new events depends on the mixture of overall FiM philosophy.

1. Events as drivers of future growth
2. Events in response to existing team density pressures

Contributing factors/clues include:

• FiM District map (see below too)
• FiM has the stated long-term goal of at least one event in each District. Short-term that probably doesn’t mean the UP with it’s scattering of teams and long travel times.
• New Events historically drive new growth. Team expansion areas would benefit most from a new event being closer by.
• Team density tends to drag events closer to existing teams like gravity (higher density in southern Michigan Districts). Events responding to existing teams and not trying to drive growth.
• New team growth depends on available population centers close enough to be affected by a new event and to draw from.
• Local availability of strong, established teams and thus volunteer sources to form the core support/experience for a local event
• District new team growth, 27 new FiM teams are located:
  • (6) District 14
  • (4) District 16 (has event)
  • (3) District 6 (has event)
  • (2) District 1
  • (2) District 2
  • (2) District 5 (has event)
  • (2) District 10 (has 2 events)
  • (1) District 7
  • (1) District 8 (has event)
  • (1) District 9
  • (1) District 11 (has event)
  • (1) District 12 (has event)
  • (1) District 15
  • (0) District 3
  • (0) District 4
  • (0) District 13 (has event)
• 
  

Thoughts, contributions, rumors, wild speculations, conspiracy theories all welcome...

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Lansing would be a good site for a new District event.

I have no inside knowledge of FiM plans. We are a tad busy just now, getting new teams up and running out here in District 16. :)

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• District 14 (Battle Creek) would be a good choice. That doesn't have an event yet, has the most new team growth, and is still close to the high team density Detroit area.
• District 7, Lansing would push the FiM center farther north and did have an event the first year when FiM was a pilot, so they'd know what's involved (or would that make Lansing shy away?).
• Kalamazoo might be a consideration based on team density and potential new team population.

Any other District teams care to jump in with opinions?

I've been busy myself running a series of rookie workshops (mechanical, pneumatics, electrical, programming, putting it all together) at two rookie sites locally.
Yesterday one rookie team finished assembling all the electronics and got a running robot, last night I took the robot apart, today another rookie team gets to put it all together (again). I feel like I'm on one of those hampster wheels.

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Saginaw is likely, it has the benefit of utilizing the Flint network of volunteers and is just inside 7. Lansing is another good guess but there may be a reason that Lansing didn't hold another event (speculation).

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The Tri-City area (Bay county, Saginaw county, and Midland county) has a population of roughly 400,000, but only a handful of FRC teams. FiM may target this area for a district because of the low team density, but high potential for growth.

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Team 2337 attended the Lansing District in 2009 and it appeared to be well-run. I was personally disappointed the event did not come back for the following years. It's nice to have an event in the state capital as it is much easier to connect to and invite state congressmen and officials (the governor attended in 2009).

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Since registration closed on December 1, FRC has:

• Gained 42 teams
• Lost 21 teams
• Net 21 (noon on 12/15/11)

A casual look at the overall registration number might not reveal that much is going on but HQ is probably a blur of activity.

More than 8 Regional lists have changed in the last day.

• 14.2% gain (293 teams) over last season
• 20% of teams are new (471) (about the same % as last year)
• -8.6% team loss

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The best place for new exposure would to put a district event in Marquette Michigan (I'd say Houghton but not enough teams would actually trek that far to come to a competition) in District 1. Yes it is a drive for the teams in Lower Michigan but the UP is an awesome place and is well worth the trip also the UP is slowly growing with teams and this new competition would help speed it up. It would also help keep costs down for the teams in district 1 as they have to travel upwards of 10 hours one way to get to 1 competition and then to force them to do it twice is ridiculous. FIM was created to save teams $, get the costs of competitions down and to give teams more play for the price. All teams in District 1 don't see the benefit of it because they have to travel so far.

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Anyone ever been to Sault Ste. Marie, MI?

Looks like there is an Airfield and a University. It is also 5 hours from Houghton, and 5 hours from Troy, MI.

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FiM has begun clearing the District waitlists.

• Kettering, Traverse City, West Michigan, Detroit, & Livonia are full now.
• Troy & Northville have 4 openings between them
• Niles is still only half full
• Waterford has 10 unassigned slots

12 Regional events have each had a few minor team changes in the past 24 hours.

In all, a net of 45 teams have added in (teams have dropped out too).

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It is wierd how they extended the date for regionals to December 19th to allow more teams to apply.

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Now that registration is done...

EWCP has published a new team distribution map. It is available on our blog at http://ewcp.org/blog/2012/01/03/FRC-...distributions/

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The distribution does give a nice sense of which areas might have the team density to support a district like system.



I'm not sure if team densities will ever approach FIM and MAR levels in the midwest. The population isn't as dense. On the flip side, the midwestern culture is used to driving longer distances to do things. Perhaps we can support the district system over a much broader geographical area.

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I would agree that this map clearly shows that with FiM and MAR, New England would be the next area targeted for districts.

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Nice region grouping graphic.

The team coordinates in the most recent All FRC Teams Ever have been refined.
About a third now reflect the actual school location and the only duplicate coordinates are of teams hosted at the same school.
It's not perfect, as some teams don't give enough information to pinpoint their location any closer than a town, and mistakes may have been made, but it's better than it was.

The coordinates that have been examined and are fairly accurate are marked.
If anyone wants to volunteer corrections, they will be cheerfully accepted.

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This is a good point about population densities. I recall seeing population density somewhere. I'll see if I can dig that up and overlay the map with it sometime this week.

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Minor point of clarification:
MAR=NJ, eastern part of PA, and DE

National Capital Region: MD, DC, VA

For now.

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This is the first I have heard about the National Capital Region. New for 2013?

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That's just the name of the region, it's not an actual district system like FiM or MAR (as of now).

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Been around for at least 3-4 years. http://www.mdfirst.org/about-us/firs...al-region.html
http://www.dc-first.org/about-us/sponsors
http://www.virginiafirst.org/community/sponsors

The region shares major sponsorship for events.

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Well, yeah, here in MAR we sure have a lock on people who are dense. :p

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Welcome to the latest FRC rookie team 4411, from Beijing, China.
The Middle School attached to Northern Jiaotong University

They have signed up fpr the Seattle Olympic Regional.

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Wow that is great that first has attracted teams from Asia as well as Europe, South America, and obviously North America.

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Hooo boy... the barn doors are opening now!

Jane

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Jane, will you please parse that one for the benefit of those not fortunate enough to reside within the great State of Texas? :rolleyes:

I wouldn't want our new friends in China to get the impression they are being compared to escaped livestock. :confused:

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Of course. That means that we are going to see some wonderful opportunities coming in the next few years. There's no stopping them (the opportunities).

Jane

P.S. Can I keep the, hooo boy! ? That means: :D with a little :ahh: followed by a :D which = AWEsome!

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I thought I should mention the new Michigan District event at Gull Lake High School in Richland, MI.
The Michigan people know all about it, but the rest of us may not have heard.

It's a week 1 event and 20 teams are currently registered there.


Waitlist clearing across a lot of events has been going on, too.

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Here's the (semi) final registration plot for this year.
Currently at 2346 teams.

China dropped out on us.

• 465 new teams (19.8%)
• 24 resurected ex-vets
• 1857 returning from last season
• 13.6% gain over last season
• 91% team retention

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33 now.
We need to do a draft next week in Fantasy FIRST.

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Yeah, I posted that in the FF forum back when I saw the announcement. Sneaky multiplying Michiganders.:D

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Like roaches they are.

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:mad:

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Gremlins then?

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The Championship has been admitting teams off of the waitlist-about the same time as last year.
Originally, 142 teams were let in during open registration back in October.
It dropped to a low of ~123 teams after payments came due.
It's now back up to 140 teams.

Total registration now stands at 2343 teams.

Here are the % of teams doing more than one event:
# Events - # Teams - % of all Teams
5 ----- 2 ----- 0.1%
4 ---- 10 ----- 0.4%
3 --- 131 ----- 5.6%
2 --- 725 ---- 30.9%
1 -- 1475 ---- 63.0%

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I've noticed that in addition to a rise in 3-event teams that are attending 2 districts and an outside regional, more teams are moving towards 3 regionals. Do you think it will be a growing trend in places that don't have districts?

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Here's a late addition of when each event reached initial capacity (blue bar) and when it finished drawing from the waitlist if it reached max advertised capacity (red bar). Those events where the blue/red bar reaches the top are those that never reached maximum capacity. The scale is in days from registration opening. The blue bar can be thought of as the free market, while the red bar represents the controlled market of the Regional Director/FIRST HQ's discretion. The Blue goes quickly, but the red lags.

The first chart is in order from left to right based on which events reached initial capacity first.
The second chart is in order by when the team list was finalized from the waitlist.

FIRST HQ is highly concerned with all teams getting their first Regional, but don't care so much if they get a second Regional, so some waitlists drag on and never seem to close.

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How many days must teams wait before second and third regional registration opens?

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All in the FIRST calendar: http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...eason-calendar

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Here are some charts of interest.
These show how old the teams are that have dropped out each of the years from 1999 to 2012.

The number in the pie wedge is the number of teams that didn't return from the previous year, and the color of the wedge corresponds to the number of year's the team actually competed. This includes teams that may have skipped a year, but the skipped years weren't counted.

In the 2nd attachment the % in the pie wedge is the % of all teams lost that year.

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Any chance you could express the loss in percentages of the total loss that year? I'm hoping it will make a y2y comparison easier

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See if the 2nd attachment fits what you want.

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Thanks Mark.

So what occurred in 2000 and 2001? It looks like we have made steady improvement in retaining new teams since then, but those two years really stand out.

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That cross-year comparison of % might be deceptive and I'm thinking about other ways to portray this kind of data. Maybe normalize % against the total number of teams each year, so losing 1% of total teams in 1999 can reasonably be compared to 1% of teams in 2012.
For instance, 1999 lost 12.7% of it's teams, while 2000 lost almost 5% fewer (7.9%) of it's teams.
P.S. I added full comparison charts that show the difference.

The "problem" with 2000 is that it had the lowest overall dropout rate of all the years charted, so the percentages are disproportional in comparison to the surrounding years. 2000 only lost 32 teams.
Most of the other years are pretty similar with less than a 1% spread in losses of total teams (7.9% - 8.8%), so the charts do generally work in comparison. The outliers, where comparison doesn't work, are 1999(12.7%), 2002(10%), and 2005(11.9%), all poor years for retaining teams.

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Ah, OK.. Makes sense. Amazing how easily numbers can be deceiving If not interpreted correctly.