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I wanted to get this going early to get the hype going. We on the planning committee are hoping, correction, know we are going to throw a great regional. With countless years of FIRST experience and Regional attendance, our goal is to bring the best of what we have seen and haven't seen to the Queen City Regional. I hope to see you all there, competing and/or volunteering.

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This is one of the regionals 772 is looking at going to this year. Hopefully its FUN!!! We are signed up for Tennessee and will be going to GTR West or east! Is there anything special about Queen city regional? And who are the top teams that usually compete here??

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Since this is the first year for the QCR, there are no usual suspects.
As of 7:50EST on 9/30/2011, the attending teams are
144
554
829
1014
1038
1249
1739
1772
3201
3945

If this event is sponsored by NASA, I'd hope to see 1529, and many more Indiana teams, added to the mix.

The Xavier campus is beautiful; the Cintas Center is fantastic. There are a lot of great attractions around the Cincinnati area, including a world-class aquarium and zoo, a museum campus, a vibrant downtown, fantastic sports tradition, and more. I'm sure Jimmy can fill in the blanks I've left.

What a great gift to have a Week 6 event. Hopefully by that time field issues will be worked out, the game will be refined to its "final" playing configuration*, and the logistics will be smooth so that the event, venue, and planners can shine!

* of course there has to be a couple silly rules left so IRI can "fix" them and Paul can go on his annual rant.

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Taylor just about hit it all. One thing he left out was this same weekend is Open day for the Cincinnati Reds. They are still debating on whether it will be Thursday or Friday. There is an issue with the Opening day parade being on Good Friday.

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Like I said in a previous thread, 1528 Monroe Trojan Robotics hopefully will be able to get into this event. I have to wait for the second event registration to open but I will be at TIMS waiting to register the instant we can sign-up. I look at this as a warm-up for the Michigan State Championship and hopefully others from Michigan can start the Queen City Regional with a bang.

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Agree with Taylor and Jimmy. We're planning an awesome event. Our planning committee has some fantastic members who have been involved with FIRST on multiple levels for many years. The event will have many things to offer our teams and participants, including some FIERCE week 6 competition. Our event website will be launched in the next few weeks.
We'd love to have some of our Northern friends join in the fun!

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I'd really like for the TechnoKats to attend the inaugural Queen City Regional. Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of the students are worried about it being during Spring Break with a band event nearby on the calendar. That's making competitions during weeks 5 and 6 very unlikely for us.

I'll probably burn a vacation day and volunteer there.

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We (the Bad Robots of 1014) are looking forward to the inaugural Queen City Regional. It takes me back to my teaching (Cincinnati City Schools) and FIRST (Walnut Hills) roots. Looking forward to it, even though I may have to miss the finals due to another commitment.

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I hope to be volunteering there--maybe as an inspector.

Oh yeah, and I'll bring 3193 Falco Tech with me...and maybe a couple other friends as well ;) !

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I expect you and your friends to register to compete as well.:confused:

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There, I fixed that for you. :)

48, 379, and 3193 all intend to register for Cincinnati from the Youngstown-Warren area. 3138 will be joining up as well, as I convinced them to sign up for Pittsburgh first. Good call, eh?

I've also heard that several out of state high power teams are at least "considering" attending. Hopefully some of them join the party!

Speaking of party, does the regional committee expect to organize some kind of Friday team party activity? Just wondering.

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If we are able to raise enough funds to cover the event and have some leftover, we are allowed to have an official Team Social. I would love to have one, but we have to wait and see.

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I really envy the fact that Indiana teams can just drive a few hours to get to Cincinnati and participate in this one as well.

If in the future Purdue and the Cincinnati one are back to back weekends, that would make for a good two event trip.

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with B/T being at all regionals then it it may work in the future... with the crate and wait system back-to-back regionals were a gamble (with shipping).

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depending on my class schedule next semester i may have to volunteer... (I know Friday and Saturday will be free, but Thursday may be sketchy).

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I was disappointed to find out that NASA didn't include the Queen City Regional in their list of Regional Challenge Grants. Looks like if we're going to go, we need to get money the hard way.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, and please tell me I am. The text says grants are available for veteran teams attending a first-year competition; then it lists the competitions as DC, NC, UT, and FL. However, those are all 2+ year competitions. I'm hoping this means first-year grants as well as the four listed - ? Can somebody confirm (I don't think Mr. Lavery is near a computer right now, and if he is, he's going by it at about 25mph).

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I got a call into our RD. She was not sure if we would be on the list or not.

Also, last year we applied for a Program Growth Grant and was awarded one, so you can always apply via that route.

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Almost 2 weeks in and I'm sure everyone is busy with robot design and fabrication, maybe if still talking strategy. I know it seems early to be thinking about the Regionals, especially a Week 6 event, but we are trying to make this a top notch Competitiona in Cincy and want to make sure if you have any issues or concerns you can contact me directly at jnichols@usfirst.org.

Thanks and good luck!

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Team 45 is really excited about all the teams going to Queen City

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Is there an event website?

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Soon!

Here it is: www.queencityfirst.org

It is setup on a re-direct to a temp site where it was created. We are hoping to have it fully functional in the next few weeks.

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VOLUNTEERS!!!

We still need several volunteers. Most of our key roles are filled or close to being filled, except for Robot Inspectors. We still need several.

If your team is attending and you would like to volunteer, please do so.

Thanks!

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I should know this....why is it the Queen City?

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From FAQ on Cincinnati Museum Center's website:

How did Cincinnati come to be known as the Queen City?
During the first forty years after its founding, Cincinnati experienced spectacular growth. By 1820, citizens, extremely proud of their city, were referring to it as The Queen City or The Queen of the West. On May 4, 1819, Ed. B. Cooke wrote in the Inquisitor and Cincinnati Advertiser, "The City is, indeed, justly styled the fair Queen of the West: distinquished for order, enterprise, public spirit, and liberality, she stands the wonder of an admiring world." In 1854, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow wrote his poem, Catawba Wine, to memorialize the city's vineyards, especially those of Nicholas Longworth. The last stanza of the poem reads:

"And this Song of the Vine,
This greeting of mine,
The winds and the birds shall deliver,
To the Queen of the West,
In her garlands dressed,
On the banks of the Beautiful River."

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Maybe next year you guys should name it the Porkopolis Regional, you could do a flying pig theme...
:)

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Yeah right Dan.

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Okay, as a newbie on this forum, I'll be coming as an interested FLL coach and parent supporting Team 1529. I saw the mention of the Reds season opening games and thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Red home opener is Thursday at 1:05 pm. Bad timing for FRC participants, but the Evening home opener (and calendar giveaway promotion) is Saturday night. The game is a 7:05 game.

Is there any chance that is doable with the bagging of robots taking place around 6 pm? If so, maybe we can do a group seating thing. I'd be happy to try to work something out if there is enough interest.

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That would be awesome! I can email all the teams and give them your contact info. send me a PM or email at jnichols@usfirst.org

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Who wants to go see the Reds play the Marlins!

A parent from Team 1529 has done all the legwork or should I say red-legwork, and has arranged for a group rate ticket price for anyone interested in attending the Reds/Marlins game on Saturday night, April 7th.

If you plan on staying over or are on the fence, hang out and enjoy a game, attached is the flyer with all the details.

Just make sure you mention Queen City Regional in order to get the discount!

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I would love to go but I think it would be appropriate to stay and help tear down the field first.

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For those who aren't going to be helping tear down the field. 1038 will be helping.

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How many spots are still available? The FIRST website and Blue Alliance have different numbers of registered teams...

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The FIRST website is the up-to-date version. We are at 53, but I just got word we may be at 54 with a last minute addition. We can fit 60, so if you are interested in coming I know FIRST will let you sign up. You will need to call Team Support to do it.

Jimmy

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Looks like it is up to 55 now...two of our Indianapolis Rookie teams (4211 and 4234) are headed over now! 4211 was the 8th seed at BMR.

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On the event website, it says for the Team Social, "More Information to Follow." Are there plans for a party Thursday or Friday night?

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Whom can we expect to MC and announce this fine affair?

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I heard a rumor it might be Blair. He does many of the new events.

234 is not competing, but I plan to be there Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to seeing lots of great action!

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We do not have a team social planned for the event. The team information document I emailed to all the team main and alternate contacts had some wonderful places for teams to go if they wanted to go out on Thursday or Friday.

Blair is MCing our event and we will have an MC in training (I think).

JonDarr Bradshaw from the Buckeye Regional will be coming down to announce at our event.

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Blair AND JonDarr?!? That's a great duo!!

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This event is really shaping up to be an awesome experience. Yes the Blair AND JonDarr dynamic duo will be our MC and game announcer, an incredible line-up of both veteran and rookie teams, an in-expensive offer ($10 per ticket) from the Cincinnati Reds for the 7pm Saturday night game vs. the Marlins and tons of FIRST fun!

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looks like we got confirmation that we're officially signed up and ready to go for Queen City this morning! This is the first year we'll be participating in a second regional and we're hoping to improve on (or at least stay on par with) our great performance at Wisconsin in week 4. looking forward to meeting a (mostly) new set of teams and joining a good portion of you on the coopertition bridge! best of luck to everyone!

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Sweet! Long time, no see. :-)

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Awesome! Looks like we are at 57 teams now. Look for the team info document and some other info soon.

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PARTs is excited about coming to Cincinnati. It is great to have another regional close to home. Are we going to have a practice field at the event?

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Courteous of Teams 1024, 1741, 1038, and 1014 we will have a full practice field available to all teams.

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Holey Moley, this will be the best announcing crew ever. Period. There is no one better than JonDarr. If he doesn't announce on Einstein, he should.

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CRT 306 wishes all teams the best of luck at this weeks competition. The event sounds like it is going to be amazing. I am sad that we are not going now, we were almost signed up last week, had everything but the school boards approval, and the denied us. Needed at least 30 days notice to travel out of state. I am still debating on making the drive,and seeing what the events like. We will be keeping this event in mind for next year. Again good luck to all teams!

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Chris, Let us know if you arrive, come by team 772 and help root us on....

77Who? 772!

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Queen City Regional Webcast Link:

• http://live.delphielite.com

There *might* be video up and running on Thursday, especially once everything is set up and tested functional, but that is not guaranteed. Consider any Thursday video icing on the cake. :)

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We're up and running. Here's the icing on the cake.
http://live.delphielite.com

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mmmm... I love icing.

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Oh the ramp of broken dreams...

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Looks like my team is as competitive as ever. Going for the triple on practice day. Might as well. Good luck to everyone at the competition, and thanks for the awesome stream Team 48

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Our team almost felt bad for not tipping. After all, we were the ones to suggest attempting a triple balance.

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We were ambushed in the pits. Came in too stuffed animals and a barnyard scene. Makes the Goats fell at home. We suspect our practice partners.

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Good Luck to team 1772 The Brazilian Trailblazers from M'Aiken Magic Team 1102!

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Whoo 6 robot balance! From what I've seen of the webcast, the competition at this rookie regional is excellent. Also, the MC is great and JonDarr is sublime as usual. DJ is fantastic too. Usually when I'm doing stuff on the computer, I listen to music. Today, I just leave on the Queen City stream.

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Does anyone know where the rankings for QCR are online?

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http://www2.usfirst.org/2012comp/eve.../rankings.html

Same place they're at for every other regional... FIRST website, events, regional name...

5 of us from 279 came down just to watch and check the event out to see if we want to come next year.
Thus far we are very impressed.
Music could be louder and more dancing would be cool.

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The main reason I do not like arena venues is there is no where for teams to dance. At DC the kids had all the room to break it down all day long (though the DJ needed to play more than 20 songs) while just like the Orlando regional which the venue reminds me the most of the teams are confined to the stands. That being said the Cintas Center is a very nice building.

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Relive the magic of Friday qualifying:

http://www.youtube.com/user/delphielite/videos

Some other business of the day - thanks a TON to Dave Campbell and Team 144 for offering to wait at the venue while their bus took us back to our hotel at the end of the day after our bus wouldn't start. Extremely grateful to them for this very kind and gracious act - plus we got to play "clown bus" fitting about 45 people (many of them not small) into a bus meant for 35. Fun times.

6-1, 128 HP, and 170 TP through 7 matches. 3 to go. I haven't done the math, but it seems we are scoring baskets better in qualifying than probably Pittsburgh and Wisconsin combined.

All 3 NEOFRA teams in attendance (48, 379, 3193) are currently in the Top 10. 379 and 3193 are bringing it strong - looking at the schedule, they will both have a major impact in the final qualifying rankings and in the elims. I'm very proud of all my friends on these teams.

Great venue, atmosphere, and event overall. The planning committee has done an excellent job in their first go around!

Great to see Bill Beatty, Chris Fultz, and Andy Baker leading the herd o' WFA and WFFA's onto the field for the awards presentation - congrats to George Bilokonsky of 1270 - well deserved!

Finally, GREAT JOB Jimmy Nichols on all you did and do to earn today's Volunteer of the Year recognition!

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Thanks delphi elite for the webcast, you guys are doing a great job.

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Yes, thank you. I will say this has been the best spectating event I've watched remotely this year. It's true that there *are* advantages to having closeups, but it's also nice to be able to watch the entire field the whole match.

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Also thank you for using Ustream, being able to watch matches anywhere when you're following a team is great.

Triple Balance successful! Congrats 45, 3940 and 781

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A tear is shed for the first seed alliance.

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And again, knocking out the number 1 alliance!

Great job guys!

Ok, make that 2 triple balances...

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As the numbers of viewers are increasing, the feed is becoming increasingly unwatchable. Anybody else with this problem?

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Still working fine for me.


WOW. Semifinals between 71-1024-3494 and 45-3940-781 is probably one of the best matches in the entire regional.

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How was that not a Red Card? 1038 was literally ON the red bridge in the middle of the triple balance attempt!

A valiant effort from 3301, 2481, and 829.

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Disagree.

The other semifinal


2481, 3301, 829 vs 3193, 1038, 48 was the most intense match yet. The defense was so hard that 3193 ended up on the other alliances bridge!

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You mean the 829 alliance? Someone explain this bridge thing to me please?

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Apparently you can now drive on the opponent's bridge during a triple balance and only get a 3 point penalty...

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I apologize for adding to the confusion by listing the incorrect team numbers; it's fixed now.

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Very tough call for the refs in Queen City in that semi final match. It appears a valid triple balance defense is to just park in front of the bridge and let your opponents push you up.

-Brando

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Should have been at a minimum a technical foul. The definition/interpretation of "interfering with the act of balancing" is hazy in this situation. The third robot was not on/touching the bridge so I would not interpret them as in the act of balancing. The other two robots however were on the bridge and could be argued were actively trying to balance.

EDIT: I'm surprised this is the first time this has happened (that I know of).

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Ok, so for those of you that didn't see the play:

2481 + 3301 were both on the red bridge. 1038 was playing defense by the red bridge. 829 was attempting to get over to the red bridge to balance, but 1038 was playing defense on them. During the playing of defense, 1038 got sandwiched between the red bridge and 829, who was straight on facing the red bridge ready to drive on . 829 pushes 1038 and they hit the corner of the bridge. No foul called. 829 backs up and gets more situated to get onto the red bridge. As 829 drives forward, they literally push 1038 onto to the red bridge. I didn't see any ref's call any foul, and the posts here make it sound like just a 3 point penalty was called, and i don't know what the 3 point penalty is for. 829 was clearly trying to make it a triple balance and 1038 interfered by getting onto the bridge.

In my opinion, 829's alliance should be in the finals.

Why? A couple of reasons. (updating/editing)

At the very least a tech foul should be called; 3193 touching a red bot on the bridge, which they did, should result in a tech, because it was consequential.

Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."

Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.

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Supposedly you're not interfering with the act of balance if the balancing robot isn't touching the bridge, even if the defensive bot is. If this stands legal, i know what I'm having my alliance's defensive bot do.

-Duke

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If they were pushed into the bridge, though, there is no [G25] foul. The exception to [G44] only applies to [G28], touching an opposing robot, which is at worst a technical foul.

([G25] is the touching an opposing bridge/interfering with balancing foul)

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It was 1038.

[G28] states that "Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge." The penalty is a technical foul (9 points) plus a yellow card.

[G25] states "Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge." The penalty is a technical foul along with a red card.

Isn't that 1038 did? I'm going on a limb and saying the refs made a very bad call.

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The relevant rule is this:

So at minimum, 9 points. And there is a pretty strong argument for "the act of balancing [being] interfered with", since they were physically on the bridge.

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If the defending robot was pushed into the bridge, there is no foul unless they touched a robot touching the bridge (and that would be a 3-point foul because it was not intentional).

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I believe the correct call was made, although it did happen quite fast. The tech-foul/DQ is for touching the bridge itself [G25]. This is not a "forceable" penalty. Per [G44], ONLY the [G28] penalty can be forced on an opponent. As 1038 was pushed into the bridge, it's a correct no-call. The [G28] penalty was called, when 1038 was pushed on to the bridge and contacted one of the robots already on the bridge, but this is only a 3 point penalty.

$0.02

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Has this call set the precedent to allow for one to park in front of a bridge where opponents are trying to triple and force them to push you up it if you want to continue?

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Forgot about [G44]. By the letter of the rules it does appear the correct call was made as 1038 would never have ended up on the bridge themselves.

Given the point trade off, if the right call was truly made this may become more common...

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I've been suggesting this strategy for a while. The counter is simply to come at the bridge from the other side (where you have a lane) and, if necessary, rack up [G28] penalties on the defender.

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Nope. Read G28.
And G28 is relevant to G25.

Again, as i said earlier:

Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."

Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.

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I would point you to [G44], which I already posted above. And the [G28] penalty should be a foul, not a technical foul; if 1038 was pushed into the bridge robot, it cannot be "purposeful" contact, and thus should be a foul.

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It does not say ONLY, it says AN. It also says generally, which proves it to be a fallacy to assume only G28 applies. Furthermore, Because G28 is relative to G25 (contacting robots in contact with their bridge), G25 can now also be considered an exception.

-Duke

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The issue is that [G28] is the only exception to [G44] and as such [G25] would not apply if the contact with the bridge came as a direct result of red robot pushing blue robot into red bridge.

EDIT: I have never really been a fan of the way [G44] is written. Since [G28] explicitly calls out applying at all times and [G25] does not I think the right call was made. I don't think by violating [G28] it is transitive to a [G25] red card the way things are written.

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Did...Did an inbounder just win a regional?


Wow. Those are the best eliminations I have watched all year. Fantastic job 8th alliance, it's ridiculous how good they were for an 8th seed.

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Blue bot on red bridge controversy aside, those were phenomenal elimination matches to watch.

Somebody buy that inbounder a steak dinner!

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No! Just because it's the last score doesn't mean he won it! Gah!!!

But yeah, sure, he won the regional for them :cool::p

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I take it back. If he hadn't made it, it would have gone to first tie breaker, fouls, and they would have won anyways. But they were tied in hybrid and bridge, so it was really close to being a tie.

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Congratulations to the number 8 alliance 45-3940-781!

Beating out 48-1038-3193, the alliance that incurred the questionable 3 point penalty....

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Oh yes, those tiebreakers. Very opposed to those. But let's stick to the even more controversial debate: Bridge defense :rolleyes:

True that. If they would've won that would've caused a lot of debate.

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This is not a put down to the number 8 alliance, this is just an unbiased observation. But Queen City is proof that an average alliance that can coordinate a triple balance is deadly.

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Huge win for Teams 3940, 45 and 781. 781 has pulled off some big upsets this year, but none bigger than winning Queen City from the 8th alliance. Huge congratulations to them!

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If you haven't noticed, that was not your average alliance.

3940 and 781 are great top-hoop shooters, and that's what kept them alive and close. 45 did an incredible job scouting and picking out those two teams.

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Well, I wouldn't call them average if they can triple balance!