[EWCP] - 11-13-11 FIRST Supplier Cast
 

As was announced during last night's cast, the next EWCPCast will be about what it is like to be an FRC Supplier. We have arranged for none other than Andy Baker to be our special guest for this cast.

Once again we are asking for your input, what should we ask Andy? Obviously we will heckle him about next year's KoP, FIRST Choice, and the retirement of the CIM motors and the long awaited (if sometimes prematurely assumed) return of the Globe motors. What more do you want to hear?

The cast will be the usual time (9pm EST) at the usual place. Hope to see you there.

And, as always, if you have an idea for a cast or would like to help us in any way please contact us here via PM, at our Facebook page, or just put out free food and wait for us to come by (it won't take long).

Edit: Just for my own time saving/sanity if we could agree on a format for questions. Maybe put them in a code tag or something. Preferably keep them general and concise as well. Basically that way I can quickly compile the questions for this cast. Sorry to be so demanding.

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I would like to hear Andy discuss the process for developing a new product. How does it go from ideation to manufacture to distribution.

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WAIT... retirement of CIM motors?! Did I miss something? Is there an announcement or intel on this?

WHAT are Globe motors and where can I find them?

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Globe motors are a handy little motor included in past KOPs. They were silver, with a black gearbox of the same diameter directly mounted to them. I remember using them in 2004, but do not remember them in the KOP after that; the BaneBots motors are a decent replacement (those came in around 2006, IIRC).

I don't remember what their normal use was, though. But, like I said, they were handy; they were slightly lighter-duty than a FP, but strong enough to be used effectively in a number of arm/claw applications. (330 in 2004: 2 Globes powered an arm to remove the doubler ball. We also had a van door motor in there--that's another one that people have wanted back--to enable sliding along the bar.)

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I'm just joking, we know nothing, but losing the CIM is something that is joked about yearly.

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Globe motors disappeared from the KOP between 2009 and 2010 if I remember correctly. They were awesome little motors for things that needed finite control and already came with a transmission that gave them a reasonable output speed.

Andrew, you are aware that the removal of the CIM from the KOP might cause the downfall of FRC? I've never encountered a motor as forgiving as a CIM - Stall them for 20 seconds, run them hot on a short turnaround, or call them mean names in between matches and they'll just keep doing their thing.

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Along with this I'd be interested to know if, and how many people go to AndyMark with component ideas for them to sell.

Also interested to hear what might be coming in the near future. (Even if its just a hint, it would be cool to know what they are working on)

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Just to help clear the air a bit, Globe is a brand that sells all different types of motors. "Oldschoolers" refer to them as "Globe motors" because they were the only Globe branded motor we got in the kit.

The Globe motor we got in the kit specifically was model # 409A587 (I believe thats correct).


Through my own research over the past couple years I've learned that those particular globe motors are no long produced. What was left of those motors was already distributed to suppliers.

If the Globes do come back, I'd expect a different version, albeit probably extremely similar, but still not EXACTLY the same.

-Brando

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They were used to shift into 4WD on the transfer case of GM vehicles IIRC. They were one of the most robust motors we ever got in the kit but since their manufacture ceased about 4 years ago they don't make sense in the kit anymore.

I suggest teasing Andy about the "Thursday Robot Challenge" if the rules allow us to do it this year.

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A reminder to all about this cast on Sunday November 13th.

Examples:
where are most of AM parts manufactured
how large is the staff
how much inventory does AM keep
when does AM start production for build season
what does AM stock the most of



Post whatever comments questions and concerns you have for Andy Baker, co-founder of AndyMark.

Tune in on Sunday!

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You beat me to the question. :D

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How did AndyMark get started?

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There is nothing to indicate a retirement of CIM motors.

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Indeed, the CIM is one of the best-sealed motors we've had in the kit. I might consider a window motor for use in the water game, but not as a first choice.

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Ugh... see folks, this is why I don't try to be funny.

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Andrew, it's best to remember no one in FIRST has a sense of humor. They take everything seriously and to heart. This fact has prevented more comical ideas my team members have had than anything else.

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Breaking News: We are withholding all further segments of Dustin giggling like a schoolgirl until we receive more questions from our audience.

Unfortunately, this means that all time not filled by questions will now be filled with Chris Picone saying the word "um.." more times than he did last cast with cows mooing simultaneously in the background. No one wants that.

We're hoping to grow our fan base before the end of the year, when we hope to have a super special guest on for you, so please continue to tune in and look for future updates.

Jack

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For the record I liked it. :)

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I just sent this update to Richard Sisk, who invited me to participate in this broadcast:

Richard,

I am excited about Sunday's podcast. Looking at the CD thread, these are some topics that have been brought up:

1. Product development process: How does a product go from idea to manufacture to distribution?
2. Where are most of AM parts manufactured?
3. How large is the staff?
4. How much inventory does AM keep?
5. When does AM start production for build season?
6. What does AM stock the most of?
7. How did AndyMark get started?
8. The running idea of the "Thursday Robot Challenge" if the rules allow us to do it this year. (from team 177)
9. If and how many people go to AndyMark with component ideas for them to sell?

We can talk a bit about what new products may still come out (we have 2-3 in the works). Also, I would like to talk about the culture of collaboration between small companies who are in this niche market. We work with many, and have the idea that we should work together with our competitors as we build the market.

I can talk about all of these ideas, some more than others. We are fairly proud of our supply chain, and where things are made. I don't want to get too detailed about what sort of inventory we keep, but I can get more specific about the other things.

I will look to join in around 8:30pm.

Sincerely,
Andy

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The cast begins in 1 hour! Tune in and be sure to show your friends.

Andrew will post the direct link as soon as he has it.

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The call can be found on this page: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=98466&cmd=tc

Click the big purple button that says 'Join in'.

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I would like for you to ask Andy these:

What does he look for in an employee?

I have heard him say he is "always interviewing and evaluating" students.
What does he mean by that, anyway?

Will he be providing the equipment to deionize the water for the game this year?

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<schreiaj> http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=19 < Show Notes
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<Stogi> use it as a fundraiser lol
<Stogi> they get paid a % to ship stuff
<Stogi> Andy can you talk about that during the cast?
<Stogi> i think its interesting
<Stogi> Nah not on the call
<Stogi> doing some studying first
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<Stogi> I meant talk about what you said with donating to the teams for hours their kids work
<Stogi> wow, nice
<Guest 2> Yeah, wow.
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<Stogi> mhm
<Stogi> how do the AndyMark sponsorships work?
<Stogi> hehe we put big AM stickers on our robot last year
<Stogi> send MORE stickers
<Stogi> we'll have two bots this time
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<thefro526> Akash wants all of the stickers
<jwfoss> so many stickers
<schreiaj> Akash also sniffs glue
<Stogi> yup
<Stogi> hey i am glue-free
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<Stogi> since kindergarten
<schreiaj> so, last month?
<Baselthe2nd> I support the free glue movement as well^
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<thefro526> why are you talking about glue
<jtemple> smells good
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<Stogi> tastes good
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<jtemple> 2012 EWCP IRI meetup at AM shop?
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<Guest 2> Pork products? Hope 1902's coming...
<schreiaj> lol
<BrendanB> sqeeze bacon!
<andybaker> gotta love pork products
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<Baselthe2nd> Richard is currently "away" on GChat, but he is online
<thefro526> Just texted Sisk
<jtemple> why am I muted?
<JacobP79> Im sure you could find a ton of people interested
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<thefro526> AndyMark is best FRC supplier
<PowerOfH> And he one heck of a nice guy
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<schreiaj> w00 KU!
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<MarkKramarczyk> Andy: I love when you release the testing methodology.
<thefro526> Hit it with a hammer?
<jtemple> The videos are sweet, right?
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<jtemple> I've gotta head out guys, have a good night
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<thefro526> ttyl Jt
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<Guest 11> aww i missed it again
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<Guest 11> ughh i keep forgetting when it starts
<schreiaj> Guest 11, it is all being recorded
<Guest 11> ....
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<Guest 12> make me a sammich?
<Guest 12> will andy sell intertubes for a water game?
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<Guest 12> ?
<Guest 5> 4" would rock
<thefro526> who is guest 12?
<jwfoss> 4" near impossible to find though
<MarkKramarczyk> why a pneumatic tire?
<Guest 13> Am I guest 12?
<schreiaj> I concur with Dustin's question, who is Guest 12.
<Guest 13> I'm Alan Anderson.
<thefro526> traction, shock absorbtion @ MArk
<MarkKramarczyk> what was the AM logic to jump into that market with established manufacturers
<jwfoss> they're offering a hub that easily interfaces with sprockets and such
<MarkKramarczyk> teams are already getting and using them...
<MarkKramarczyk> ahhh... so it really about the hub, not the wheel
<jwfoss> the tire isnt custom, its just to support teams who cant make custom hubs
<schreiaj> Yes
<jwfoss> exactly
<jwfoss> you can run other companies wheels on their hubs
<jwfoss> its basically a standard mountain board size
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<Guest 15> hello?
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<Guest 15> over 9000?
<schreiaj> Andy, how did you have the courage to quit your job and start working for yourself?
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<MarkKramarczyk> props to Mary
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<rsisk101> hi guys, just got done with Irvine FLL QT
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<thefro526> Hi Sisk
<thefro526> Missed you
<rsisk101> ditto
<rsisk101> Who holds the inventory for the KOP? AM or FIRST?
<rsisk101> MAS500 by Sage Software?
<rsisk101> What ERP system are they using?
<schreiaj> ERP MRP ftw!
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<rsisk101> schrejaj we just proved our nerdiness
<schreiaj> <- former ERP/MRP software developer.
<schreiaj> Rich, did we really need to prove this?
<rsisk101> heh
<schreiaj> Just so people know, that is industry standard
<rsisk101> AM needs to create the AM Christmas tree ornament series - a different retired part each year turned into a christmas tree ornament
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<rsisk101> How has FIRST choice impacted the decision of what to stock
<rsisk101> -30 lbs for the bumpers
<rsisk101> borrow heavily from other teams
<MarkKramarczyk> people have been drinking too much bobcat sauce
<rsisk101> not bad if you chase it with a lime and a little salt
<schreiaj> Rich, you just described my weekend
<rsisk101> bah - who needs friends. Would have to get some first before I could make them mad
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<MarkKramarczyk> nice sisk... what are you doing now?
<rsisk101> hangin with my friends of cours
<MarkKramarczyk> @Andy - what is your favorite product?
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<rsisk101> I met him at CMP last year, great guy to talk with
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<JacobP79> He did a great job with the field at TNT
<rsisk101> we got to talking about supply chain software and totally geeked out
<rsisk101> AM = No.1 in customer service
<schreiaj> yes
<rsisk101> Makes the customer come back time after time
<rsisk101> It's cheaper to keep a customer than it is to bring in a new customer
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<Guest 15> Can we use innertubes from 2011 for next years water game?
<rsisk101> @andybaker - how do you know what customers want? And how do you know that you deliver what the customer needs?
<schreiaj> We will not be talking about the 2014 water game tonight. That will be covered in a cast sometime in 2 years
<rsisk101> you said that two years ago!
<Guest 15> it cant be in 2014
<Guest 15> the worls is gonna end in 2012.
<rsisk101> I need to be on my best behavior next time I work a regional with Andy
<rsisk101> doh
<Guest 15> see
<rsisk101> Ask Andy if he is Chuck Norris
<Guest 15> LIES
<Baselthe2nd> There will probably not be a water game next year
<Guest 15> YES SO ITS CONFIRMED?
<Meredith16> We should have a Jello game...
<Guest 15> ?
<thefro526> In for Jello game.
<MarkKramarczyk> What about the tetrix to AM Supershifter adapter?
<Guest 15> lol
<rsisk101> cheers go up!
<rsisk101> yes we do
<Guest 15> water game
<rsisk101> oh right
<Guest 2> The bumpers, or the dance?
<MarkKramarczyk> There will still be CIM's. But you can only use 3 since we used up one of them in 2010.
<rsisk101> Hopefully an AM product
<schreiaj> BB transmissions!
<Guest 15> lol
<rsisk101> Or maybe BB motors since it drives so much business back to AM
<rsisk101> Hey, stop dissin Californians!
<schreiaj> sisk you were late
<jwfoss> shout out to RC
<rsisk101> I was working my tucas off!
<Guest 15> ....
<Meredith16> Mr. Novak would like a 4 or 6 inch pneumatic wheel???
<thefro526> ^ so would the guy with the afro
<rsisk101> pneumatic wheels work well in jello
<thefro526> apparently it's based on tires
<schreiaj> I'd like jello
<Meredith16> especially 4 or 6 inch ones!
<rsisk101> strawberry jello
<jsneer> i cant believe this isnt andys favorite product
<jsneer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCzCKC3_cF8
<MarkKramarczyk> go go kinect
<rsisk101> The API
<rsisk101> say it with me... API
<MarkKramarczyk> sure, that was a coincidence
<Guest 2> Six-omniwheel-drive?
<rsisk101> Yeah! AndyMark!
<Guest 15> thanks
<Guest 2> What Sisk said! Thanks!
<JacobP79> Thanks so much!
<Guest 15> chuck norris thread?
<rsisk101> It's RC
<rsisk101> Chill with us at CMP
<schreiaj> Search for Andy Baker in CD
<JacobP79> What regionals are you working this year?
<rsisk101> Sweet!!!!
<rsisk101> We could do another lost episode podcast with ANDY at CMP
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<Stogi> ANDY BAKER Y U SO AWESOME
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<andybaker> Thanks, Stogi
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<Stogi> honestly- my favorite cast so far
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<andybaker> thakns to all of you guys
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<rsisk101> That was sweet, thanks for coming on Andy
<Stogi> and i thought the scouting cast was my favorite before
<andybaker> Thanks, Richard
<Bryan33> I think that a very cool AM product would be if your new supershifter gearbox had a lower input shaft so it could be direct driven on 4" wheels.
<jwfoss> great cast
<Bryan33> Great job
<Stogi> oh wow we forgot to thank Rich Sisk for bringing Andy onto the show for us
<jwfoss> thanks to Andy for calling in
<andybaker> Guest 15... it's a thread that JVN started a long time ago
<rsisk101> Andy, what ERP system are you using?
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<andybaker> Bryan, I totally agree
<Stogi> THANKS RICH SISK FOR BEING RADDEST EWCP MEMBER
<andybaker> Richard - Fishbowl
<JacobP79> Andy, what event are you working this season?
<rsisk101> Interesting, will have to check that out
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<andybaker> Jacob... not sure yet... Definitely Purdue, Cincinnati
<Guest 15> ?
<rsisk101> Let me know when you are ready to move to a SAGE product ;>
<andybaker> probably Colorado, maybe Silicon Valley, maybe South Florida, maybe Seattle
<JacobP79> We would love to have you in South Florida
<MarkKramarczyk> AN-DY-BA-KER
<rsisk101> Sweet, will see you at Silicon Valley
<rsisk101> Dona and I are judging/inspecting
<schreiaj> Andy, if you are doing South Florida let me know, I'd love to inspect alongside you.
<Guest 15> lol
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<andybaker> We as a staff at AndyMark all need to figure out where we are going. Where I am going really should depend on where Mark, Jerry, and other guys go
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<andybaker> So, I am waiting a bit for the FTA schedule to come out, which takes longer
<rsisk101> How about Central Valley, new regional could use a good FTA
<andybaker> Ask for Mark or Jerry
<andybaker> Both are great
<rsisk101> And you as LRI
<andybaker> Brant and Brandon (AndyMark engineers) are going to sign up for FTA training too. I am focused on LRI
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<andybaker> One thing I don't want to do too much of is doubling up, Mark as FTA and me as LRI (like we did at San Antonio last year).
<rsisk101> You as LRI for CV, and the entire EWCP crew as your minion inspectors
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<andybaker> We need to spread ourselves out and interact with more teams'
<andybaker> When is the Central Valley? week 6?
<schreiaj> Yes it is
<thefro526> wait, CV is week six?
<andybaker> I'll be in Cincy
<rsisk101> I've heard the facilities are awesome
<thefro526> CV or LSR. HMMMMM
<schreiaj> Which reminds me I need to book that flight, anyone have a line on cheap flights from Florida to CV?
<andybaker> so, I can't go
<rsisk101> boo
<andybaker> Southwest is running a special now, I think
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<rsisk101> Guys, I got to run home. Everyone have a great night!
<schreiaj> sweet, I guess I'll check that and put in for civic time
<schreiaj> thanks for everything Rich
<andybaker> Richard - thanks for everything
<rsisk101> Ah shucks, I'm blushing
<schreiaj> Also, anyone know what airport I should fly to for CV?
<rsisk101> two FLL QTs in a row, time to go home and collapse
<rsisk101> I dont think they have airports in Fresno
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<andybaker> Hey, Mark - you're pretty quiet... are you still there?
<MarkKramarczyk> Andy, any MI stops this season?
<andybaker> heh
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<MarkKramarczyk> I'm listening and baking, so reaction time is slow
<andybaker> I am not sure... I would like to go to the MAR Championship this year. since I went to the MI Championship last year, I may not go up north
<andybaker> There are many areas where I have never gone... Seattle, Colorado, SVR
<MarkKramarczyk> That seems like a good choice. I would love to get there myself
<andybaker> Philly... never have been there for an official event
<MarkKramarczyk> Gotta see the customers
<thefro526> Andy, come to MAR CMP
<thefro526> you can witness the black hole that is Philly
<andybaker> MAR Championships... yep I will do my best to be there
<thefro526> (black hole == the game is completely different then anywhere else)
<andybaker> I've been to Ramp Riot a couple of times
<MarkKramarczyk> how so?
<MarkKramarczyk> how so is the game different?
<thefro526> You have to be here to understand
<thefro526> but it's more primative
<thefro526> almost like going to week 1 in week 6
<thefro526> and the reffing and judging is predictable... and questionable.
<thefro526> makes it an interesting place to play.
<MarkKramarczyk> i get a nice visual from that
<andybaker> Mark... heck with MI, you should just come with me out to MAR CHamps and check it out
<thefro526> You guys can hang out with Akash and I
<MarkKramarczyk> hmmm... nice idea... let's talk...
<thefro526> not to mention 341, 365, 25, 103 etc.
<MarkKramarczyk> it is good to get out of the MI sphere of influence from time to time
<andybaker> Dustin, I would be surprised if it is much different than other places. Each region has its strong teams and weak teams. Each event has tough calls
<andybaker> I'm looking forward to checking it out. Being next to Michigan and seeing it develop, I want to see how another District system forms up.\
<thefro526> Andy, from the 5 regionals I went to last year
<thefro526> Philly was nothing like the rest.
<thefro526> NJ/MD/NYC/DC/PHL
<MarkKramarczyk> How the next district develops will hugely impact all of the following ones.
<andybaker> agreed
<thefro526> Andy, maybe once all of the events become concrete in MAR and FiM we'll invite you back on to talk
<thefro526> Mark, you too
<MarkKramarczyk> FIRST seems to be letting the regions take the lead on defining things
<andybaker> that sounds good
<MarkKramarczyk> no problem
<andybaker> I am gonna sign off. thanks again for hosting!
<andybaker> have a good week, everyone
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<MarkKramarczyk> night all

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Last night was my first time listening and I really enjoyed it.
Big thanks to Andy for coming on and sharing many of his experiences and stories and to the EWCP guys for putting the cast together.

I'm definitely hooked and can't wait for the next cast.

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Andy, I loved this cast, thank you for being a part of it. Seems like we might host another legendary FIRSTer on our next cast :rolleyes:

Here is the link to the podcast on iTunes
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/e...st/id477122221

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Last night was fun. Thanks to all of you guys for coordinating this effort and for inviting me to participate.

Sincerely,
Andy B.