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Alan Anderson 16-11-2011 15:57

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Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1085369)
We can assume that since there is Carpet tape, then regolith will probably not be part of this year's field.

Lunacy had carpet. It was exposed around the borders of the field, as the FRP "regolith" didn't extend to the edges.

Ninja_Bait 16-11-2011 15:58

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Has no one seen the "Tidal Wave" in the third line? There's a stormy undercurrent in these posts... Perhaps one of the mysterious pallets contains large fans that blow around lightweight (but hopefully not very delicate) game pieces. Or it's a water game!

Andrew Schreiber 16-11-2011 16:08

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Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1085371)
Right, but it still doesn't answer the question as to whether the quantities of materials listed by Bill should be divided by 19, by 15, or something else.

Divide by 42... or 0... Ah crap that didn't help any, we still have too many choices.

Oh well, guess I'll know in January.

Hallry 16-11-2011 16:15

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Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1085350)
four 1,000lb pallets of game specific steel elements, a pallet of aluminum, three 1,500lb pallets of a game specific item plus a fourth 1,000lb pallet of a different game specific item

Hmm, that's a ratio of 4lb game specific steel elements : 4.5lb game item one : 1lb game item two.

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1085357)
Total lbs - per field - per Alliance
8000 ------ 421 ------ 211 ----- polycarb
4000 ------ 211 ------ 105 ----- steel elements
4500 ------ 237 ------ 118 ----- game specific
1000 ------- 53 ------- 26 ----- game specific

Does that mean that the amount of the first game item is going to weigh more than the steel elements? 0.o ::rtm::

thefro526 16-11-2011 16:19

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Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1085369)
We can assume that since there is Carpet tape, then regolith will probably not be part of this year's field.

If memory serves me correctly, the field was carpeted then regolith was placed over it. That's why the regolith was 'squishy' when walked on.

Come on GDC, bring back regolith!

Kpchem 16-11-2011 16:20

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The 19 fields number comes from Bill's Blog on September 15th, where he states that, "[w]e’re building two additional competition fields this year bringing the total number of fields on the road to 19..."

Steven Donow 16-11-2011 16:23

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1085376)
Hmm, that's a ratio of 4lb game specific steel elements : 4.5lb game item one : 1lb game item two.



Does that mean that the amount of the first game item is going to weigh more than the steel elements? 0.o ::rtm::

Not necessarily, First Game Item could be a large quantity of something light, ie. A LOT of tennis balls, soccer balls, Overdrive balls

Joe Ross 16-11-2011 16:30

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1085367)
I thought that too, but then I looked at the list of events. I don't see enough simultaneous "conventional" regionals. The district competitions have to be included.

The Israel and Hawaii fields do not also travel to mainland events. Last year, FIRST kept one field in a warehouse in the middle of the country as a contingency. Also, the Einstein field is not used previously. So, there's 4 fields needed in addition to the most simultaneous regionals.

On the other hand, the 17 fields that they had last year included the two FIM fields.

Mark McLeod 16-11-2011 16:34

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1085379)
Not necessarily, First Game Item could be a large quantity of something light, ie. A LOT of tennis balls, soccer balls, Overdrive balls

26 lbs alone could equal 4421 ping pong balls (find the red one...).

Jared Russell 16-11-2011 16:37

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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1085381)
26 lbs alone could equal 4421 ping pong balls (find the red one...).

Or about 80 poof balls :)

Jon Stratis 16-11-2011 16:43

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1085379)
Not necessarily, First Game Item could be a large quantity of something light, ie. A LOT of tennis balls, soccer balls, Overdrive balls

Keep in mind he specified the number of pallets used... Since pallets have a fairly standard size, and you can only stack things so high before it gets too dangerous to move the pallet, you could conceivably determine a total volume measurement for the game items. Combine that with the weight, and you can probably start to remove a lot of lighter-weight items from consideration.

Walter Deitzler 16-11-2011 16:44

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Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 1085373)
Lunacy had carpet. It was exposed around the borders of the field, as the FRP "regolith" didn't extend to the edges.

I knew about the carpet, but it seems reasonible that if they bought carpet tape then it would be used to cover mass amounts of carpet, not just the border of the field. As I see it, they wouldn't order an entire palette of carpet tape to just cover the border of the field.

Steven Donow 16-11-2011 16:48

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Originally Posted by eagle33199 (Post 1085383)
Keep in mind he specified the number of pallets used... Since pallets have a fairly standard size, and you can only stack things so high before it gets too dangerous to move the pallet, you could conceivably determine a total volume measurement for the game items. Combine that with the weight, and you can probably start to remove a lot of lighter-weight items from consideration.

But arguably, if we determined total volume, we'd still need to be wary, because let's say the game pieces are something like Tetras, and come in pieces.

I say we just organize a top-secret raid into FIRST HQ one night.

Andrew Schreiber 16-11-2011 16:53

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Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1085384)
I knew about the carpet, but it seems reasonible that if they bought carpet tape then it would be used to cover mass amounts of carpet, not just the border of the field. As I see it, they wouldn't order an entire palette of carpet tape to just cover the border of the field.

You've never put together an FRC field have you? It takes a lot of tape to cover even the border. It is also used to patch the field and secure down any errant sections of carpet. Basically, if it is carpet and needs to be secured at all you use a crap ton of tape.

rsisk 16-11-2011 16:53

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Originally Posted by O'Sancheski (Post 1085365)
He mentions gaffers tape along with the carpet tape. Does this mean line trackers are coming back?

Carpet tape is used to hold the two large pieces of carpet together, goes underneath the carpet at the seam.

Gaffers tape is used to hold the carpet down (around the perimeter) and also for all the field markings (driver stations, lanes, etc...). It is all the visible tape.


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