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Ether 19-11-2011 12:37

Physics Quiz 2
 

This is a continuation of the Physics Quiz posted here yesterday.

The weight of the motor+wheel assembly is W.

The coefficient of static friction between the wheel and floor is mu_s.

How much motor torque "tau_s" is required to start the wheel rotating?



SavtaKenneth 19-11-2011 12:59

Re: Physics Quiz 2
 
we know that when the system is static the force that the wheel exerts on the surface is F = τ/(rsinθ). The minimum force for the wheel to start spinning is F = τ/(rsinθ) > W*mu_s.

and so we get

tau_s > W*mu_s*r*sinθ

brndn 19-11-2011 13:07

Re: Physics Quiz 2
 
F of friction = μmg which is equal to the F in τ=rFsinθ and mg = W

tau_s = r*mu_s*W*sinθ

But as SavtaKenneth said, it has to be greater than in order to overcome static friction.

Ether 19-11-2011 13:07

Re: Physics Quiz 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SavtaKenneth (Post 1085777)
we know that when the system is static the force that the wheel exerts on the surface is F = τ/(rsinθ). The minimum force for the wheel to start spinning is F = τ/(rsinθ) > W*mu_s.

and so we get

tau_s > W*mu_s*r*sinθ

Correct. Now look at Quiz 3.



Ether 19-11-2011 13:19

Re: Physics Quiz 2
 
Quote:

tau_s > W*mu_s*r*sinθ
Notice that when θ is small, it takes very little motor torque to break the static friction and start the wheel rotating. Perhaps you can see the analogy to a skid-steer vehicle with a wide trackwidth.

As θ increases toward 90 degrees, the required motor torque steadily increases. Think of a skid-steer vehicle with a long wheelbase.



James Critchley 19-11-2011 21:17

Re: Physics Quiz 2
 
I like where this is headed.

FYI: In order for the weight to interact with the ground under the wheel and not via a reaction at the "frictionless pivot" (assumed to be a revolute joint) it must instead be a cylindrical joint. Otherwise the normal force is indeterminate (as it can have any pre-load or none at all).


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