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alicia635769 30-11-2011 13:11

[FTC]: What counts as a "stack"?
 
I looked through the game manual but I am still unclear about this.

If a stack of crates is separated by a thin piece of metal, does it count as a stack? In other words, if a stack consisted on the bottom-most crate, then a thin piece of metal, then a second crate, what would score would this get? (Assume each crate has one ball in it, and is upright, open side up.)

At the end of a match, if a bot is holding a stack of crates (not in contact with the ground) and the bot is on the platform, does the 10-point bonus for a stack on the platform apply?

pandamonium 30-11-2011 13:15

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
are you talking about stack attack? I am soo confused... ?

Kimmeh 30-11-2011 13:19

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Disclaimer: I can't answer the OP's question, just attempting to clear up confusion.

The OP is a member of FTC and is asking a question about their game "Bowled Over!".

Edit: Can this get moved to the FTC forums? Or at least tagged as FTC?

Andrew Schreiber 30-11-2011 13:26

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alicia635769 (Post 1087602)
I looked through the game manual but I am still unclear about this.

If a stack of crates is separated by a thin piece of metal, does it count as a stack? In other words, if a stack consisted on the bottom-most crate, then a thin piece of metal, then a second crate, what would score would this get? (Assume each crate has one ball in it, and is upright, open side up.)

At the end of a match, if a bot is holding a stack of crates (not in contact with the ground) and the bot is on the platform, does the 10-point bonus for a stack on the platform apply?

My understanding of the rules is that it isn't the fact that the crates are stacked that nets you bonus points it is the height of the box measured from the playing field floor.

GaryVoshol 30-11-2011 15:05

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alicia635769 (Post 1087602)
If a stack of crates is separated by a thin piece of metal, does it count as a stack?

Where are you going to get these thin pieces of metal? Don't forget Rule <G7>:
Quote:

<G7> Robots may not deliberately detach parts during any Match, or leave mechanisms on the Playing Field. If a detached component or mechanism is attached to a Scoring Area and prevents additional scoring, the team will be Disqualified. Multiple infractions may result in Disqualification for the entire competition.

Note: Thread moved to FTC forum.

Chris is me 30-11-2011 15:22

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1087628)
Where are you going to get these thin pieces of metal? Don't forget Rule <G7>:

No one said anything about detaching the metal from a robot!

wilhitern1 01-12-2011 08:27

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1087631)
No one said anything about detaching the metal from a robot!

The logical assumption that I see in the detached part reference is that the robot may have used a piece of paper to pickup the box. If so, the piece of paper inately becomes a part of the robot. If then left behind and/or renewed from any source, it becomes a detached part.

team F.T.C 4240 01-12-2011 10:25

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alicia635769 (Post 1087602)
If a stack of crates is separated by a thin piece of metal, does it count as a stack? In other words, if a stack consisted on the bottom-most crate, then a thin piece of metal, then a second crate, what would score would this get? (Assume each crate has one ball in it, and is upright, open side up.)

Crates are scored by height, they don't need to be stacked on each other to score (as long as there is a ball in it). Hope that helped.

alicia635769 02-12-2011 16:43

Re: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Hi all,

I apologize if I was unclear; this is coming form a first-time poster. This is for the FTC game, "Bowled Over!" No, there are no detaching mechanisms on the robot. Hopefully this will make it clearer:

|__| crate 1
|__| crate 2
|__| crate 3
|__| crate 4
|__| crate 5
== ==
|__| crate 6

The '== ==' is two horizontal pieces of metal. Assume the metal is attached to the bot, and that each crate has at least one ball in it.

I am confused whether this would count as a stack of 5, or a stack of 6. What would the scoring be in this case?

team F.T.C 4240 02-12-2011 19:51

Re: [FTC]: What counts as a "stack"?
 
all crates above 10.5 inches score no matter what (assuming there is 1+ ball(s) in the crate), each crate is on how high to top of that crate is, it doesn't matter if its stacked on another crate or anything, all that matters is how high it is. for example.
[]


[](crates)
[][] []

Each of the bottom ones =30 points each, middle is 40, and top is 70.

in you example, as long as they have balls in the crates, no matter what you do with the crates, they will score. Hope that helped ~Derrick.

alicia635769 02-12-2011 21:08

Re: [FTC]: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Yes, that answers my question. Thank you.

team F.T.C 4240 03-12-2011 18:44

Re: [FTC]: What counts as a "stack"?
 
You're welcome!
~Derrick

normalmutant 10-12-2011 10:58

Re: [FTC]: What counts as a "stack"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alicia635769 (Post 1087602)
At the end of a match, if a bot is holding a stack of crates (not in contact with the ground) and the bot is on the platform, does the 10-point bonus for a stack on the platform apply?

If a given crate breaks the vertical plane of the home zone, even on the ramp, then it obtains the 10-pt bonus.


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