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MattC9 04-12-2011 14:28

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1088580)
Yeah, but imagine all of the difficulties in not only picking them up, but also throwing them.

Could we see a 2005 type thing, pressure pads? And I don't thing trowing them would be that hard.

jeleser 04-12-2011 16:47

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by bhaidet (Post 1088571)
or a football type game where you need to break a plane with the robot.

Can anyone think how one robot being kinect-controlled during autonomous (check the kinect usage thread) could fit into either of these game types?

If the game was based on football, possibly an autonomous similar to the kickoff of a football game? The robots could have balls either in possession or pick them up and shoot them to the opponents end of the field as close to the scoring zone as possible? And as far as Kinect use, maybe something similar to 2008's hybrid mode. I wasn't a member that year, so I'm just going on what I've read in the archive game manual, but maybe the robot will still be running on autonomous code that can be slightly altered by Kinect input (distance of kickoff, position/direction, etc)

Akash Rastogi 04-12-2011 16:50

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by jeleser (Post 1088606)
If the game was based on football, possibly an autonomous similar to the kickoff of a football game? The robots could have balls either in possession or pick them up and shoot them to the opponents end of the field as close to the scoring zone as possible? And as far as Kinect use, maybe something similar to 2008's hybrid mode. I wasn't a member that year, so I'm just going on what I've read in the archive game manual, but maybe the robot will still be running on autonomous code that can be slightly altered by Kinect input (distance of kickoff, position/direction, etc)

Using a Kinect to juke out other robots in robot football? Would be totally awesome.

Andrew Lawrence 04-12-2011 16:57

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by jeleser (Post 1088606)
If the game was based on football, possibly an autonomous similar to the kickoff of a football game? The robots could have balls either in possession or pick them up and shoot them to the opponents end of the field as close to the scoring zone as possible? And as far as Kinect use, maybe something similar to 2008's hybrid mode. I wasn't a member that year, so I'm just going on what I've read in the archive game manual, but maybe the robot will still be running on autonomous code that can be slightly altered by Kinect input (distance of kickoff, position/direction, etc)

I can see it now: Human players acting like real football players in autonomous, and the robot following their motions - Hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, SPIN AROUND AND JUMP, hustle, hustle, PASS, CATCH, hustle, hustle, TOUCHDOWN!!!

They do this all while standing in one place. :)

jeleser 04-12-2011 17:02

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
People love their sports entertainment; a football game would definitely broaden the audience. Imagine the look on some people's faces when we say "Oh yeah, we built a robot that can play football. No big deal." :eek:

plnyyanks 04-12-2011 17:04

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1088609)
They do this all while standing in one place. :)

That's easy to fix. Just mount the Kinect to a minibot, and use a second Kinect to control the minibot so that the first Kinect follows the human player. It's foolproof. :D

Rangel(kf7fdb) 04-12-2011 17:49

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1088580)
Yeah, but imagine all of the difficulties in not only picking them up, but also throwing them.

All the more reason it would be frisbees.

Andrew Lawrence 04-12-2011 17:56

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb) (Post 1088628)
All the more reason it would be frisbees.

I like your thinking son! :D

Andrew Lawrence 04-12-2011 17:57

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
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Originally Posted by jeleser (Post 1088611)
People love their sports entertainment; a football game would definitely broaden the audience. Imagine the look on some people's faces when we say "Oh yeah, we built a robot that can play football. No big deal." :eek:

Imagine showing the school's football team! It's been a dream of mine to build a football-playing robot, and have it compete with the team.

(I already have about 23 sketches of possibilities. Tank drive, swerve, launcher, kicker, a rotating mechanism, everything. :D)

jeleser 04-12-2011 18:16

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
If the game were based on football and there was an end zone, what about using the photosensors to accurately tell when the robot breaks the vertical plane of an end zone? If a robot were to come very close and suddenly backtrack/stop, maybe refs would have difficulty making the call

DavisC 04-12-2011 18:31

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
Would we be allowed to challenge the play?.. always wanted to do that with a ref

the man 04-12-2011 18:33

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
I have no idea about this hint. But I would like to see a game like 09 in the fact that there were huge impacts. Even on the slippery floor robots were so "out of control" that it was awesome fun. Yes lets do a game that is a lot of fun for the drive team, maybe a few less pinning / collision rules. :yikes:

gyroscopeRaptor 04-12-2011 18:53

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
Is the only justification for footballs we have the nebulous "alternating sports years" pattern?

Footballs would be a hard game piece in the goals. An AimHigh high goal would likely jam often, Breakaway low goals would have no way of returning to the center like Breakaway's soccer balls, any center goal would be easily "camped" with a quick return (think 469 only more effective) and still be susceptible to jams, and side goals where Lunacy outposts were would be still worse.

Before you say "they haven't been used," look at those reasons and consider why the GDC hasn't made them yet. Remember, plenty of other pieces haven't been used in a few years. We could just as easily use stacks or tetras.

Andrew Lawrence 04-12-2011 19:01

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
Jim Beck from California FIRST gave a talk at the MVRT workshops yesterday, and said though he wasn't involved with the GDC, he knows the design process. He said to look to years past, and for the most part all games use elements from previous games. That's what he said. So for my advice, look at elements in previous years, and put them together.

DavisC 04-12-2011 19:09

Re: First Official 2012 Game Hint
 
Yea, this morning at 8 AM I watched all the game animations since 2003, and a round of each game...

Anyone know where I could find an archive from b4 2003? it starts getting iffy at that point.


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