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Or worse, do what our robot did: Take a soccer ball straight to the hanging mechanism in 2010. :p Bottom line is for the most part, if there's flying/moving objects, something CAN get damaged. Doesn't mean it will. |
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Somewhere, in a grave far away, Murphy is laughing at us. |
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This game hint has been pretty uninspiring so far :-(
Is there a reason for the 2 extra high speed counters? Why not just 250? That seems like the last thing that is left to dissect on this hint. |
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Dear GDC,
We've extensively scrutinized the game hint you gave us, and have so far extracted about 98% of the information available on it, current knowledge permitting. Therefore, we would appreciate it if you released the second game hint before we start getting bored, and the crowd starts dying down. It is for your best interest in which I say, "RELEASE ANOTHER GAME HINT!!!!". Thanks! Best regards, Andrew Lawrence P.S: Tell Dean I said Hi! :D |
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That extra two must have been ordered to send us a message of some sort, it does not add up no matter how you slice it...
2 extra counters, its got to mean something. OR It's late and i am grasping at straws to revive the discussion on this hint. EDIT: Two more teams on the field? Not likely, but that's the direction my thoughts are going. |
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We may want to keep in mind that this might not be everything FIRST "ordered" since it's just the parts that Rockwell was gracious enough to donate. Maybe they needed 1000 of a part and Rockwell agreed to give them 250.
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Backups? Idk, a new game hint must be released tomorrow or else I will fall into depression over the weekend...
And actually, the blog never truly states that the List is THIS years parts. I guess it is possible this is actually a list from a year like Aim High (but I doubt this is the case) |
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Speaking of donations, if any of y'all haven't taken advantage of Gates's offer, it's great! They're allowing ~20-ish products, and some of those sprockets are awfully darn expensive!
It's allowing us to prototype an octocanum modification we've been wanting to do for a while. So, yeah. Not about the game hint, but I saw the word 'donations' and thought, "DOOOOOOOooooooo it!" |
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Actually, back in my day, we waited for Lavery Claus to give us hints.
(Now it seems that jolly St. Bill has to fill in the gap :p...) |
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This may have already been said (as im am not going to read every single post, sorry). but i think that we are suppose to be looking more at the chart, rather than the parts in it. though with the high speed counting things it does seem to be something like an Aim High game (which would be awesome! i loved that game, maybe cause it was the first FRC game i saw live). for the chart idea it could mean something with stacking game pieces onto one another, but then where would the very fast counters be in play? maybe end game?
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What if there is a tunnel?
There are a lot of amber lights and a lot of photoswitches- which monitor light in a given spot. This would work most accurately in a full dark situtation which is not possible in a game setting. To get full dark, I propose that as a speculation, they have a tunnel, and blind operations. |
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what will the very high speed counter be used for? I was wondering if there would be tennis balls, racketballs, golf balls?
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The Amber lights are found on all of the competition fields, under the stack lights at the Alliance Stations. There are 6 Per Field. That is 12 for the two new fields. Also, the photoswitches are used for detecting proximity, and or line following. They are not analog parts, so they are not useful for detecting light levels. How they work is they send out an IR beam, and when they get a reflection that is above a set threshold amount, they turn on. And if we had a tunnel long enough for it to be dark, how would the field get reset, how would the spectators see, and the operators operate? |
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Foam balls - like those used in many Nerf toys - can be launched pretty quickly, yet won't hurt much if a shot goes wrong. But those are probably too easily obtained and frequently stocked to be used as a FIRST game piece :p |
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QBY, please read the posts before. This has been discussed heavily before your post.
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Even if they are going into a bucket, don't you think that some team is going to have the bright idea that shooting them in from half a field away will allow them to score more points (as they won't have to drive right up to the bucket)?
I've been hit with the game pieces (intentionally or accidentally) for every game for the past 5 years. None of them have really posed an injury threat if something went wrong - the closest we got was with the track balls, and being as large as they were it was pretty difficult to get them enough speed to be really dangerous (which still didn't stop some team from trying in their effort to score quickly and efficiently!). |
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And Remember, they had numerous palates of plexiglass, which could be used to enclose the entire field, protecting spectators and drivers alike...
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speaking of which, what about puck like hockey game? that my require high speed sensors... |
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plexiglass is easier to say than polycarbonate. Hockey would be a cool game to play but the only problem is that it would be tough for every team to have a rink to practice on.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB9CMKHGjag As for how they "get away with it", my guess would be a difference in yield strengths. It may take much more force to shatter the plexiglass rather than bend the polycarbonate. I don't know this for sure, but that's how I could rationalize this application. That being said, polycarbonate is better than plexiglass for robotics because plexiglass will shatter like in above video. |
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based on the second and third incidents from this video (apparently from the same game), it seems to be laminated, at least in some venues, so that it doesn't send shards of plastic everywhere when it does shatter.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4f3q...eature=related must have been on a hot streak. as for why, lexan costs a lot more than plexiglass... and glass and perhaps even plexiglass is much more scratch resistant... lexan is a softer material and is more scratch prone. given the amount of contact the panels see, it wouldn't take long for dust scratches to ruin the panels... |
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Are we sure we go everything out of this? Did we scrutinize it completely for every possible detail? Maybe we aren't getting something.
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that last post is a little over the top but the point is valid. That is the way these threads normally go though they are twice as long. :)
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For the sake of entertainment, im rather happy that this is back on the top of the portal.
O.K so what is left to dissect on this hint that we haven't yet? *crickets* |
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"It Lives" just like Frankenstiens monster. :D
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:) No bets. I'd win. Jane |
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What if the items on that list aren't the clue, but instead its the fact that it is a list that is the clue. It might signify sorting of some kind. ... Just a thought |
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The list certaintly wont be a lie, so we can count on high speed counters being used on the field. But yes, i would think "sorting" or "stacking" is going to be a theme in this game. |
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maybe the field, like the list, has rows and columns.They could be different scoring areas or something.
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Instead of inner tubes or balls or tetrahedrons, it will be a water balloon game, where robots have to take as many water balloons they can from their side and carry them across to the other side and dump them on the opponent's side. different color balloons are in different places and count for different points (similar to this year's game), and balloons may not leave your robots frame except in certain areas near the bins where you are placing/picking up water balloons. :p
Or maybe it is a boring game just like all the others in previous years, no water, no fire, no fun :rolleyes: |
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Who knew that the first hint would be the last? I was hoping for more since I enjoy watching everyone dig for the truth. Bill, here's hoping you do better next year! More hints! I also miss Dave's red herrings. Both wound up our brains (and, to a certain extent, our virtual mouths where we say things that we know are way out in left field, maybe not even in the ball park) and kept the CD rumor mill forum humming. ;)
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HELL YEAH! OMG, we won the safety animation award :D.
Go Team 3705- Arrowbots! |
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