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quinxorin

02-12-2011 20:47

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Because the parts list includes both photosensors and those touchpads that the scorers use (Panelview plus CE1000 touch), I predict that this game will include both automatic and manual scoring. The Very High Speed Counters will be used for counting the automatic scoring.

The Panelmount selectable LEDs are most likely a kit item, seeing as there are 2500 of them.

Duke461

02-12-2011 21:48

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Guys, guys, guys. Calm down. It's not a water game. It's a mineral water game.

gyroscopeRaptor

02-12-2011 22:24

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Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1088281)

Guys, guys, guys. Calm down. It's not a water game. It's a mineral water game.

The GDC finally took notice of teams' Mountain Dew capacities. They worked out a special deal with Pepsi...

This year's game is a High Fructose Corn Syrup game.

Ninja_Bait

02-12-2011 22:33

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Originally Posted by gyroscopeRaptor (Post 1088286)

The GDC finally took notice of teams' Mountain Dew capacities. They worked out a special deal with Pepsi...

This year's game is a High Fructose Corn Syrup game.

No, no, no. Don't disregard past clues. Remember "mulling"? Apple Cider!

kendra21093

02-12-2011 22:40

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I see it being related to two things:
1. Pinball
2. Pushing buttons to do something/get something done.

But I dont know, thats how I see it.

Tetraman

02-12-2011 23:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kendra21093 (Post 1088288)

I see it being related to two things:
1. Pinball
2. Pushing buttons to do something/get something done.

But I dont know, thats how I see it.

Quote:

1. Pinball

*slow-clap*

I think we found a winner.

Andrew Lawrence

02-12-2011 23:18

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Originally Posted by kendra21093 (Post 1088288)

1. Pinball

Will the champs be crowed the "Pinball Wizards?" :p

Ninja_Bait

02-12-2011 23:24

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Quote:

1. Pinball

Instead of The Final Countdown we will listen to the Who's Tommy.

Jon Stratis

02-12-2011 23:33

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Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 1088174)

If I were guessing... wiffle balls...high initial speeds possible but they quickly slow down... limited flight...
these have been used in other competitions (FTC-VEX)
Cheap, easily obtainable...pretty visible if you get the yellow ones..

size...probably the softball sized ones...

Or perhaps a return to poof balls (hmmm in honor of the 254's CMP alliance win last year?... just kidding)

Those are excellent projectiles of a relatively smaller size... fairly easy to obtain... terminal velocity characteristics are pretty good....we have precedent for their use...

just my ideas... what say you?

I would argue against wiffle balls - they have holes in them, which would make the photosensors (presumably used for tracking scoring in some way) unreliable - if it manages to "see" straight through the middle of a ball due to the holes, it could count that ball twice (the beam would break when the ball first enters, resume in the middle, then break again on the second half). The biggest thing I get from this is that the game pieces are likely solid (referring to the exterior - they could be hollow like a tennis ball, or solid all the way through like a billiard ball), spherical, and numerous. In other words, no Orbit Balls!

ehochstein

03-12-2011 00:19

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Originally Posted by kendra21093 (Post 1088288)

1. Pinball

Now I am imagining a field shaped like a triangle... Slopes going down each side, the robot's goal is to score into a goal like a pinball game. Except the field is made out of regolith so you can't actually climb the triangle without traction. At the same time the top of the triangle is exactly like Breakaway's bumps. The game specific piece being a... bowling ball!!

I can already see kick-off... Telling us that we need to make our robots robust because there will be bowling balls flying around.

On top of all of this they will still make it a water game by creating a fountain of water all along the pinnacle of the triangle. The water is just a light stream of course, but we have to protect our robots from water damage!

I predict the 2012 game will be the best game ever!

alectronic

03-12-2011 00:34

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1088226)

Interesting. 2 of Allen Bradley stack units can produce noise / music / sounds. I wonder why.

The field system uses sounds to alert FTA's and scorekeepers of various warnings. Those probably go with the new fields being built.

Tristan Lall

03-12-2011 03:45

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Originally Posted by jgw (Post 1088199)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1088197)

yet it's important enough to the game that teams will need it after kickoff to test with.

As I see it, the only things the teams will have is the signal light, just like previous years. All of the rest will be buried in the field.

That was awkward phrasing on my part. I agree that most of the 2 500 amber lights are for the teams, and the rest belongs to FIRST.

What I meant to imply was that if the game pieces are small and need to be counted quickly (as suggested by the previous posters who noted the high-speed counters and photosensors with a narrow field of view), teams that want to practice effectively (which includes practice dealing with the quirks of the field) may want to replicate the scoring apparatus, electronics and all. (For example, during a simulated game, keeping track of the state of 200 small balls might be more difficult than the state of a couple dozen large ones, as we had in 2006.)

Of course, this is merely speculation. I do recognize that the narrow field of view of a photosensor can also imply game pieces of indeterminate size, close to the sensor.

Wayne TenBrink

03-12-2011 10:39

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If the IR sensors have a narrow (8 degree?) field of view, then they are not likely to be used to count game pieces going into a large target opening (i.e. 2006 goal or the top of a basket). There are better sensors for that.

Besides counting game pieces, the high speed recorders could be used to measure the speed of an object passing between two sets of sensors. These items could also be configured into a linear or rotary encoder to measure speed and displacement of some moving part of a field element.

With the Kinect supposedly being used as part of the drivers station during autonomous, I expect to see moveable field elements. They would be repositioned after the bots are set on the field, and HP's would use the Kinect to steer the robot to them.

3098callahan

03-12-2011 11:31

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Originally Posted by ssmitka (Post 1088082)

Maybe it's nothing related to the supplies, but the name of the company, Rockwell. Bill's other post was titled Over the River and Through the Woods...and now "rock"well...just my 2 cents. :yikes:

Rock wall?
:ahh: :confused: yay woah yay:)

dodar

03-12-2011 12:08

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Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1088300)

Then the new Einstein field MC would be Bob Barker because that sounds exactly like Plinko!

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