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avanboekel 02-12-2011 23:52

Why do we care about the game hints?
 
I would like to start this post off by saying that each year, I follow the craziness of the game hints (who doesn't!?). Its a major part leading up to every FRC season.

Each year, we try to read between the lines to find out what FIRST is trying to tell us. We spend hours hitting F5, waiting for the next guy's 2 cents. But why? Nothing will ever be more than speculation (until kickoff, that is). For all of the ideas that we throw out there, maybe 1 in 20 is kind of relevant to what the game ends up being. And even if someone were to guess the game, what would they do? They can't start building their bot early. Its still only a guess. It would more than likely be a waste of time.

So for everyone out there, why do YOU (or don't you) follow the game hints? Is there something in these hints that I just don't get.

EricH 03-12-2011 00:01

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
What else is there to do in December (besides finals, shoveling snow, and polish off prototypes while doing Fantasy FIRST)?

Besides, I think this xkcd will sum it up quite well: http://xkcd.com/356/ See the first frame.

avanboekel 03-12-2011 00:16

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1088297)
What else is there to do in December (besides finals, shoveling snow, and polish off prototypes while doing Fantasy FIRST)?

Teaching rookies, build a kitbot, practice driving the kitbot, design a custom drivetrain. Just to name few.

BJC 03-12-2011 00:29

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
It's all in good fun, try not to overthink it. I think EricH summed it up quite well with the xkcd comic.

Justin Montois 03-12-2011 01:13

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
If you enjoy winter, you get excited about the first snowfall.

If you like FRC, you get excited when you start getting the first glimpse of the new season.

That's how I look at it anyway.

Koko Ed 03-12-2011 04:05

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
To me game hints are like robot teasers. Much ado about nothing and I ignore both.

Andrew Schreiber 03-12-2011 06:26

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
It gives me something to be a grumpy old man about.

rsisk 03-12-2011 09:45

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
I love to watch the analysis progress. The individual brains acting in uncoordinated unison achieving more than any individual could.

Ninja_Bait 03-12-2011 09:58

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
Sometimes you hope you can actually figure out the game...

CalTran 03-12-2011 10:24

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
I'd say just the entertainment value. There's something oddly lovable about seeing hundreds of minds go off in every single directing (Including a few who always manage to link to a water game XD) and just see where it all goes. It's quite fun to partake in, because even with the wildest idea, if you explain it correctly people will see your view and maybe even validate it.

GCentola 03-12-2011 10:30

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
I enjoy the game hints because it means we are close to a new season of FRC. I like following what others say for amusement, but I have never really taken them seriously. We will all find out the game at the same time, so figuring it out beforehand really doesn't do much (other than give the people who figured it out a sense of satisfaction). Some of the more serious discussions are interesting, and then many tohers are based off of over-analyzed words like "mull". I do think it would awesome to be on the GDC and know that the sanity of thousands of people rests in your hands, and then watch the discussions on crazy hints that you release!

I guess the short answer is: fun. But realistically, there isn't much a point.

And to the person who figured out mini-bots from "locomotion" last year...mad props. But we still all found out the same information at the same time :P

thefro526 03-12-2011 12:44

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
Game Hints first and foremost are an excellent way to get new recruits excited for the upcoming season.

For some of us, The Game Hint is enough to give us a 'feel' for the new game. Maybe we can figure out that we're using an arm, or will need to climb a ramp, etc, and we'll design hypothetical mechanisms around them just to keep our skills sharp.

Mr_I 03-12-2011 13:53

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja_Bait (Post 1088321)
Sometimes you hope you can actually figure out the game...

Okay, I will say that last year some of us mananged to link the picture of "Little Eva" to WALL-E's girlfriend EVA, and then leap to the conclusion of a mini-bot. However, there were no real details about the game beyond that.

And in 2007, some people managed to perceive the idea of inner tubes from the red (or was it blue?) coloring around the diamond plate target number. Again, no real details about the game.

Has anyone anywhere EVER managed to figure anything out substantial from any of the clues?

gyroscopeRaptor 03-12-2011 14:06

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
I do it for the comedy. It's funny seeing the non-serious ideas that get tossed around.

Ninja_Bait 03-12-2011 14:23

Re: Why do we care about the game hints?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_I (Post 1088348)
Has anyone anywhere EVER managed to figure anything out substantial from any of the clues?

Even though it hasn't happened yet, it could happen. Such is the foolish way of the hopeful.


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