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joe5joe7 13-12-2011 12:17

First Choice
 
As of today the First Choice site is up at http://www.andymark.com/FIRST-Choice-Public-s/411.htm

Is there anything on here that seems to stick out to anyone? It all seems to be fairly standard stuff, but they do have the photoelectric sensor again this year...

SenorZ 13-12-2011 12:19

Re: First Choice
 
Has anyone ever used rotary limit switches before? They were also in the first game hint invoice sheet.

Phalanx 13-12-2011 12:31

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1090839)
Has anyone ever used rotary limit switches before? They were also in the first game hint invoice sheet.

We've used the Rotary Limit Switches several times.
We used it last year as the "bottom out" signal for our lift mechanism.
We used it Breakaway, again, as a kicker ready signal for our spring loaded kicker.

It's highly adjustable position wise. Which means you can mount it in a variety of places and positions. It's far more robust than the micro limit switches. I'd use it again. It's a good switch if you need something robust.

SenorZ 13-12-2011 12:36

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1090839)
They were also in the first game hint invoice sheet.

This is an error on my part! There is a roller limit switch in the game hint.

Chris_Elston 13-12-2011 13:20

Re: First Choice
 
In regards to FIRST CHOICE, I see things that make up "train" parts. train wheels, rails...then out there on a limb is this linear encoder? That's like a magnetic motor...interesting stuff.

Peyton Yeung 13-12-2011 15:29

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1090839)
Has anyone ever used rotary limit switches before?

In 2009 we used them on our internal elevator

vhcook 13-12-2011 15:57

Re: First Choice
 
I find the Chassis Lift Kit interesting, in that it would tend to imply a possible bumper height change (more like 2010 than 2011).

The interesting bits, however are probably the unreleased parts at the bottom.

The rotary limit switches are delightful. Your choice of NO or NC wiring, two directions, tough as nails.

thefro526 13-12-2011 16:01

Re: First Choice
 
There's some interesting stuff on the FIRST Choice list, especially the lack of a Tetrix kit. (Yay!)

Also, just to throw something out there, read the FIRST Choice list with a grain of salt. Most (All?) of the items are donated, so they might not be needed or relevant to the game.

ratdude747 13-12-2011 16:06

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1090894)
There's some interesting stuff on the FIRST Choice list, especially the lack of a Tetrix kit. (Yay!)

Also, just to throw something out there, read the FIRST Choice list with a grain of salt. Most (All?) of the items are donated, so they might not be needed or relevant to the game.

unless the tetrix kit is one of the unknowns at the bottom :eek:

Andrew Schreiber 13-12-2011 16:16

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1090896)
unless the tetrix kit is one of the unknowns at the bottom :eek:

Let me live in my delusional world where minibots never happened and the Tetrix kit doesn't exist.

ebmonon36 13-12-2011 17:38

Re: First Choice
 
It looks like they might be clearing out some parts. There were two gyros listed - one with headers like last year's, and one without headers like the 2010 variant.

Ninja_Bait 13-12-2011 18:52

Re: First Choice
 
I think some people have forgotten what the purpose of FIRST Choice is, not just here but on other threads. Before we start game speculation, we should remember that it's supposed to replace the costs and logistics of sending a lot of parts to teams by making most of those parts available but only if the team wants them. This allows them to put less stuff in the main KOP and make a greater variety of stuff freely available to teams.

That means that game-specific parts aren't really likely to appear on FIRST Choice, because everyone will need them; they'll instead be in the regular KOP. FIRST Choice is more like our run-of-the-mill KOP stuff that FIRST felt wasn't worth sending to everyone. They either wanted to add it to the KOP and decided it was too specialized, or they had been putting it in the KOP and seeing a general disuse of the item.

Robert Cawthon 13-12-2011 19:56

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja_Bait (Post 1090929)
I think some people have forgotten what the purpose of FIRST Choice is, not just here but on other threads. Before we start game speculation, we should remember that it's supposed to replace the costs and logistics of sending a lot of parts to teams by making most of those parts available but only if the team wants them. This allows them to put less stuff in the main KOP and make a greater variety of stuff freely available to teams.

That means that game-specific parts aren't really likely to appear on FIRST Choice, because everyone will need them; they'll instead be in the regular KOP. FIRST Choice is more like our run-of-the-mill KOP stuff that FIRST felt wasn't worth sending to everyone. They either wanted to add it to the KOP and decided it was too specialized, or they had been putting it in the KOP and seeing a general disuse of the item.

True, but, remember, the minibot parts kit (the extra parts) were in the FIRST choice and had to be hidden for obvious (now) reasons.

Mark McLeod 13-12-2011 20:05

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Cawthon (Post 1090945)
True, but, remember, the minibot parts kit (the extra parts) were in the FIRST choice and had to be hidden for obvious (now) reasons.

Last year the Tetrix offer on FIRST choice wasn't hidden before kickoff.
We could all see it by December 13 and speculate on why it was offered.

PAR_WIG1350 13-12-2011 20:52

Re: First Choice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vhcook (Post 1090893)
I find the Chassis Lift Kit interesting, in that it would tend to imply a possible bumper height change (more like 2010 than 2011).

The interesting bits, however are probably the unreleased parts at the bottom.

The rotary limit switches are delightful. Your choice of NO or NC wiring, two directions, tough as nails.

Since the 2010 wheel mounts was a rather specialized part specific to that year, and due to the fact that they had a tendency to cause the frame to deform when it moved, throwing off the alignment of chains in some cases, I wouldn't be surprised if AndyMark donated them just to get an overstocked item off of their hands. This doesn't mean they are inherently bad, but it wasn't worth buying them at full price (in my opinion). They would make interesting arm mounts, especially if they were used in conjunction with the nifty slew bearings donated by Igus :cool: .


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