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BurkeHalderman 16-12-2011 13:21

FIRST team 3266 offseason CAD project
 
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Specs:
Weight- 34lbs
Frame is welded 6061-T4 1x1x1/8 tubing, wheels are 6in plaction, standard toughboxes
We have just recently learned CAD and this is our first attempt at a drivetrain.
All input is welcome!

Mk.32 19-12-2011 00:16

Re: FIRST team 3266 offseason CAD project
 
Look into using 1/16 a lot of team use it and it is lighter and should be adequate. Also I assume the center wheel is dropped?

EricH 19-12-2011 01:20

Re: FIRST team 3266 offseason CAD project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1092148)
Look into using 1/16 a lot of team use it and it is lighter and should be adequate. Also I assume the center wheel is dropped?

It's only adequate because bumpers are required. [Insert "back in my day" comments about frames, metal-on-metal contact, and lack of bumpers here.] I'd keep the 1/8" wall; if your bumpers come off somehow, it'll give better structure. Also, 1/16" can be tougher to weld, or so I understand.

Remember, your drive frame also has to take the loads put on it by the superstructure. I actually designed a drive frame for a non-FIRST application recently, and I went with 1"x1"x1/8" for a 80-kg, 1.5m x 0.75m x 0.75m robot that is not going to have any contact with another robot, but traverses difficult terrain, for the entire drive frame and superstructure support. The entire robot, in CAD, is rather under the 80-kg mass (though this does not include payload). Last I checked, FEA had yet to be done, so I'm not certain whether I can reduce the size and/or thickness or not.

However, there is a way to make the frame lighter--those inside upper rails can come off. Brace the gearboxes using rods run between them crosswise, instead of a welded piece running lengthwise. (This is also the one place that I'd say that 1/16" would be adequate; you could also use angle aluminum.)

BurkeHalderman 19-12-2011 18:20

Re: FIRST team 3266 offseason CAD project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mk.32 (Post 1092148)
Also I assume the center wheel is dropped?

The center wheel is dropped 1/8" I will update the file so the inside upper rails will be 1/16" thick. I'll also run a simulation on the frame without the rails to see what would happen.


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