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Joe G.

03-01-2012 17:47

2012 Encrypted Manual Now Avaliable

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...cuments?id=452

Enjoy.

tomy	03-01-2012 17:58

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How do you download it?

bearbot

03-01-2012 17:59

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y wnt it open i got the decrypt to work how to open the encrypt

plnyyanks

03-01-2012 18:00

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In the section titled 2012 FRC Game Manual - Encrypted, download the five parts to the manual individually. They're titled: Section 1 - Introduction, Section 2 - The Arena, Section 3 - The Game, Section 4 - The Robot, and Section 5 - The Tournament. If you open them locally (with your PDF viewer of choice), you'll be asked for an Open Document Password, which will be revealed during kickoff.

You should download the manual to your computer and not view it through your web browser because, during kickoff, FIRST's site will most likely be swamped and inaccessible, so you won't be able to access their copy of the manual then.

Side note: why isn't there one PDF with the entire manual released? I vaguely remember them doing this last year...

Joe G.

03-01-2012 18:00

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The password will be released at kickoff

These files are posted ahead of time, to reduce the load on FIRST's servers as thousands of people download the manual at the same time.

tomy	03-01-2012 18:01

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When can we download them?

ttldomination

03-01-2012 18:01

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Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1095816)

Kind of lame that there isn't one file we can download, but eh, I'll live. ::rtm::

- Sunny G.

Joe G.

03-01-2012 18:02

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You can download them right now. You just won't be able to read them until the code is released at the end of the kickoff broadcast.

mdiradoorian

03-01-2012 18:02

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they announce the password at the end of the kickoff show.

Grim Tuesday

03-01-2012 18:04

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I like how the decrypt test includes a link to the hint #1, still hinting that there will be two hints.

Question: Is discussion of password guessing allowed on Chief Delphi?

plnyyanks

03-01-2012 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1095825)

Question: Is discussion of password guessing allowed on Chief Delphi?

From the CD Rules: (emphasis mine)

Quote:

By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, racist, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws or school rules. THIS INCLUDES THE DISCUSSION OF WAREZ, FILE-SHARING PROGRAMS, CRACKING, AND ANY OTHER WAY OF STEALING SOFTWARE OR ANY OTHER COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL. You also agree not to post the same message in multiple forums, or use the forums as a real-time chat, continuing a 2-3 person conversation on for numerious posts in a short period of time.

It doesn't specifically prohibit guessing, but I'd avoid it nonetheless...

Grim Tuesday

03-01-2012 18:18

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Alright, I was just testing the waters; a password guessing thread could either be a fun distraction or vastly offensive thing. A game hint at the password, given a day before kickoff could be fun, too, though it would ruin the surprise.

Hallry

03-01-2012 18:22

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1095833)

Alright, I was just testing the waters; a password guessing thread could either be a fun distraction or vastly offensive thing.

Did someone say...WATERS? :yikes:

plnyyanks

03-01-2012 18:25

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1095833)

Yeah, I see what you mean. I doubt FIRST would release the password as the game hint - somebody would probably figure it out and ruin the surprise and strict time constraint. But you never really do know with the GDC... :rolleyes:

And a password guessing thread, which may be on the "okay" side of the grey area, is probably not a good idea to delve into, since it's not really within the spirit of early-encrypted-manual-releases (and we don't want that privilege taken away...). For, it's just a better idea to avoid trying to figure out the password early game anyway; I've waited long enough for kickoff, I should be able to make it another three days, 15 hours, ~30 minutes.

And also, it only takes one person to not think before they post, say something stupid and wrong, and ruin it for everybody.

GaryVoshol

03-01-2012 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1095838)

I doubt FIRST would release the password as the game hint ...

One year the game hint was an anagram of the password. Not like they'd ever use that trick again.

Andrew Lawrence

03-01-2012 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1095841)

One year the game hint was an anagram of the password. Not like they'd ever use that trick again.

Did it get guessed? Which year was it?

bearbot

03-01-2012 18:47

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o its just the encrypt file what now everone going to attempt the break the long encytped code haha cnt ya just wait ......i have seen anagram and hints but please just wait a few days

Sue-San

03-01-2012 18:52

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Originally Posted by ttldomination (Post 1095819)

Kind of lame that there isn't one file we can download, but eh, I'll live. ::rtm::

Perhaps this has to do with the new manual format, as mentioned in Bill's Blog back in November?

http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2011...different.html

Jacob Paikoff

03-01-2012 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1095855)

Did it get guessed? Which year was it?

2008

I think that we had all of the words but not in the right order.

the man

03-01-2012 19:12

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Yeah so what is the process of downloading these? Should there be a save option when I right click?

Ninja_Bait

03-01-2012 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by the man (Post 1095876)

Yeah so what is the process of downloading these? Should there be a save option when I right click?

Yes, "save link as...". Also, you can save it from Adobe Reader if you open it in your browser.

CalTran

03-01-2012 20:09

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Whaaat? There's not one manual to rule them all?? XD Aside from that, looks like I'll be doing some downloads tonight, get myself ready for Saturday. Can't wait!

EricH

03-01-2012 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Paikoff (Post 1095872)

2008

I think that we had all of the words but not in the right order.

May have gotten all the right words, but there was zero punctuation in "Vets hurdling FIRST tetras" and there were 4 punctuation marks in "DriveStraightTurnLeft" (I don't remember the types/order). In other words, still no way to get it... even if we'd figured out that it was the decryption password instead of thinking it was a riddle.

Trent B

03-01-2012 20:52

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One concern with what is uploaded. The KOP last year, and apparently this year has not been uploaded yet and that is what most people had concerns/demand for. I will try to grab it and make it available if FIRST's website goes down

davidthefat

03-01-2012 22:43

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http://www.mediafire.com/?g4rkaib5j6...72719vn9j39u9d

Why not just mirror them now?

Libby K

03-01-2012 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1096010)

http://www.mediafire.com/?g4rkaib5j6...72719vn9j39u9d

Why not just mirror them now?

This is why:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=54

davidthefat

04-01-2012 00:14

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First letter might be "G". The last word in the phrase might start with "S". I called it!

Karibou

04-01-2012 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1096065)

First letter might be "G". The last word in the phrase might start with "S". I called it!

That's not how you spell "water game".

Andrew Lawrence

04-01-2012 00:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1096065)

First letter might be "G". The last word in the phrase might start with "S". I called it!

LA LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING LA LA LA LA I DIDN'T HEAR A THING

davidthefat

04-01-2012 00:53

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Guide to the permission flags:

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TABLE 3.20 User access permissions
BIT POSITION MEANING
1–2 Reserved; must be 0.
3 (Revision 2) Print the document.
(Revision 3 or greater) Print the document (possibly not at the highest
quality level, depending on whether bit 12 is also set).
4 Modify the contents of the document by operations other than
those controlled by bits 6, 9, and 11.
5 (Revision 2) Copy or otherwise extract text and graphics from the
document, including extracting text and graphics (in support of accessibility
to users with disabilities or for other purposes).
(Revision 3 or greater) Copy or otherwise extract text and graphics
from the document by operations other than that controlled by bit
10.
6 Add or modify text annotations, fill in interactive form fields, and,
if bit 4 is also set, create or modify interactive form fields (including
signature fields).
7–8 Reserved; must be 1.
9 (Revision 3 or greater) Fill in existing interactive form fields (including
signature fields), even if bit 6 is clear.
10 (Revision 3 or greater) Extract text and graphics (in support of accessibility
to users with disabilities or for other purposes).
11 (Revision 3 or greater) Assemble the document (insert, rotate, or delete
pages and create bookmarks or thumbnail images), even if bit 4
is clear.
12 (Revision 3 or greater) Print the document to a representation from
which a faithful digital copy of the PDF content could be generated.
When this bit is clear (and bit 3 is set), printing is limited to a lowlevel
representation of the appearance, possibly of degraded quality.
(See implementation note 24 in Appendix H.)
13–32 (Revision 3 or greater) Reserved; must be 1.

Trent B

04-01-2012 03:04

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From hosting it last year I noticed that primarily it was the KOP checklist that got downloaded.

Like Dave Lavery said, hosting it is technically a violation of copyright but I am not sure FIRST will complain about helping other teams acquire all the information needed to compete, I took it down as soon as their site was back and stable last year. I view it as a bit up for debate if anyone can access it publicly and see it a bit as a GP thing helping other teams.

That being said I am going to err on the side of caution and possibly contact FIRST because the KOP manual was a huge issue last year.

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