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dag0620 03-01-2012 17:47

[BB] Flash Update
 
http://frcdirector.blogspot.com/2012...sh-update.html

Here you go!

Quote:

Good Evening Teams,

The Decryption Test page is ready. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...DecryptionTest
The encrypted game manual is now available to down load. http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...cuments?id=452

4 days until Kickoff
See you then!

Steven Donow 03-01-2012 17:51

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:eek: No hint.


Also they don't seem to have a file posted that is the whole manual in one-it's only got the separate sections, unless I'm missing something :confused:

R.C. 03-01-2012 17:52

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1095811)
:eek: No hint.


Also they don't seem to have a file posted that is the whole manual in one-it's only got the separate sections, unless I'm missing something :confused:

I was looking for the exact same thing. Figure they'll put it up later.

-RC

bearbot 03-01-2012 18:06

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anyone got or working on the encrypt code

Mr_I 03-01-2012 18:13

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Originally Posted by bearbot (Post 1095826)
anyone got or working on the encrypt code

Hmmm ... I wonder how Graciously Professional it would be to post the decryption code ... ;)

plnyyanks 03-01-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by bearbot (Post 1095826)
anyone got or working on the encrypt code

Nope, as that would extremely un-GP and against the ChiefDelphi rules


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cgmv123 03-01-2012 18:15

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Originally Posted by bearbot (Post 1095826)
anyone got or working on the encrypt code

The only way to break the encryption is to guess the password or brute force it. Neither of which is likely. This is the same encryption used by our government to protect Top Secret information. Nuclear codes and the like.

Grim Tuesday 03-01-2012 18:16

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Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1095830)
Nope, as that would extremely un-GP and against the ChiefDelphi rules




(emphasis mine)

Thanks for saying this; the issue wouldn't be sharing the code, nor really breaking CD rules if one were to guess it. It's the moral implication of it.

Andrew Lawrence 03-01-2012 20:41

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Anyone notice the title of the post? "Flash Update" sounds like it's a small but quick update, like it's not the real thing to come. Maybe it mean's there's another update coming within the next 24 hours, or just for the heck of it, it could mean our robots have to do something with flash, such as weird lighting, need to go really fast like the superhero the flash, or maybe something more subtle, like "No flash photography at events".

Doubt it's an actual hint, but the name is interesting at least.

Akash Rastogi 03-01-2012 20:46

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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1095971)
Anyone notice the title of the post? "Flash Update" sounds like it's a small but quick update, like it's not the real thing to come. Maybe it mean's there's another update coming within the next 24 hours, or just for the heck of it, it could mean our robots have to do something with flash, such as weird lighting, need to go really fast like the superhero the flash, or maybe something more subtle, like "No flash photography at events".

Doubt it's an actual hint, but the name is interesting at least.

No, I think it means you're bored.

msimon785 03-01-2012 20:47

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We have to build a laser cutter! because "The Wooden Beams have Started Creaking" and we have a "Flash Update", we will be building a laser cutter which machines our manipulator out of plywood in the autonomous period of each match.

/sarcasm.

Hallry 03-01-2012 20:49

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Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1095971)
Anyone notice the title of the post? "Flash Update"

Flash = Quick, like Flash Flood...
WATER GAME!

BrendanB 03-01-2012 20:55

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Originally Posted by bearbot (Post 1095826)
anyone got or working on the encrypt code

I do but CD rules say I can't post it. I booted up my kickoff super computer and it decrypted the code while I was at work all day. Hopefully next year I can invest more into it to eliminate the time by a fraction.

Interesting game, building the elements now! No water for all you believers!

Hallry 03-01-2012 22:46

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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1095979)
it decrypted the code while I was at work all day.

You must work the night shift then, since it was only released at 5:39 pm EST tonight ::ouch::

Marc S. 03-01-2012 23:00

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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1095979)
I do but CD rules say I can't post it. I booted up my kickoff super computer and it decrypted the code while I was at work all day. Hopefully next year I can invest more into it to eliminate the time by a fraction.

Interesting game, building the elements now! No water for all you believers!

Do the game rules say anything about releasing the code before kickoff? (or are you just trollin...)

Andrew Lawrence 03-01-2012 23:01

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Originally Posted by Marc S. (Post 1096022)
Do the game rules say anything about releasing the code before kickoff? (or are you just trollin...)

Seems legit.

Ernst 03-01-2012 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1095971)
Anyone notice the title of the post? "Flash Update" sounds like it's a small but quick update, like it's not the real thing to come. Maybe it mean's there's another update coming within the next 24 hours, or just for the heck of it, it could mean our robots have to do something with flash, such as weird lighting, need to go really fast like the superhero the flash, or maybe something more subtle, like "No flash photography at events".

Doubt it's an actual hint, but the name is interesting at least.

Make sure you have the latest version of Adobe Flash Player. The Manual will contain a 3-D, interactive game field.

On a side-note, that would be totally awesome. A 3 dimensional, interactive game field within the manual? Sheer awesomeness! I want.

Tetraman 03-01-2012 23:36

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Confirmed only one game hint this year.

"And you will have everything you need for the 2012 FRC Kickoff"

A link to the first game hint is posted in the pdf. It's a little late for game hints, but yeah. that's about it.

Karibou 03-01-2012 23:45

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Originally Posted by cgmv123 (Post 1095831)
The only way to break the encryption is to guess the password or brute force it. Neither of which is likely. This is the same encryption used by our government to protect Top Secret information. Nuclear codes and the like.

Related: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=11

Grim Tuesday 04-01-2012 00:00

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Originally Posted by Tetraman (Post 1096043)
Confirmed only one game hint this year.

"And you will have everything you need for the 2012 FRC Kickoff"

A link to the first game hint is posted in the pdf. It's a little late for game hints, but yeah. that's about it.

You don't need a hint, so that's just a question of semantics.

And they label it hint #1, which implies a hint # 2, does it not?

QED.

ratdude747 04-01-2012 00:15

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1096054)
You don't need a hint, so that's just a question of semantics.

And they label it hint #1, which implies a hint # 2, does it not?

QED.

nope. not at all.

it is like the classic scheme of letting 3 animals tagged #1, #3, and #4 loose in a town and then everybody spends the rest of the day looking for the non-existent #2.

so no, being labeled #1 doesn't necessarily imply other hints to come.

---

as for flash, I wonder if maybe animations this year may be submitted as a flash movie?

Cecil 04-01-2012 00:20

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Wait a minute.. Flash.. The amazing number of LED lights from the first hint.. It's not a water game.. It's a flying game. The flashes are from runway lights we have to land between :D

Andrew Lawrence 04-01-2012 00:23

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Originally Posted by Cecil (Post 1096071)
Wait a minute.. Flash.. The amazing number of LED lights from the first hint.. It's not a water game.. It's a flying game. The flashes are from runway lights we have to land between :D

Or relate to something about lights. Different lighting, more lighting, turning lights on/off, there's a ton of possibilities, and we won't know for sure until kickoff, or until they release another game hint, and we all unanimously agree on something, and then show up to kickoff to find something completely different. :) Either way, we'll find out in less than 3 days.

Grim Tuesday 04-01-2012 00:52

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So have we concluded that the second hint is, indeed, "Flash Update"?

EDIT: Quotes added for clarity.

Andrew Lawrence 04-01-2012 00:53

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1096080)
So have we concluded that the second hint is, indeed, Flash Update?



No.

sanddrag 04-01-2012 01:16

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This game will have a dark grey and red window that pops up with an 'Install' button the robots must press. Rookie teams may opt for the "Remind me later" path of game play. I heard this season is being sponsored by Adobe.

JohnSchneider 04-01-2012 02:58

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^ Teams can use different operating systems on their drivers stations but each has its distinct flaws. Windows users have to take a 5 second penalty every 30seconds, OSX users have to play a more simplified game with lower scoring... and Linux users wont even pass inspection

gyroscopeRaptor 04-01-2012 07:52

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Originally Posted by animenerdjohn (Post 1096097)
^ Teams can use different operating systems on their drivers stations but each has its distinct flaws. Windows users have to take a 5 second penalty every 30seconds, OSX users have to play a more simplified game with lower scoring... and Linux users wont even pass inspection

iPhones won't even work in the venues.

cgmv123 04-01-2012 08:32

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Android phones get a 70 point bonus, and free whatever dessert corresponds to the version of Android you're using for your entire team. :D

BrendanB 04-01-2012 18:34

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Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1096011)
You must work the night shift then, since it was only released at 5:39 pm EST tonight ::ouch::

Ouch got me there! Forgot that I needed to wait a few hours! :p

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Originally Posted by Marc S. (Post 1096022)
Do the game rules say anything about releasing the code before kickoff? (or are you just trollin...)

Just kidding. Every year someone asks if the encryption key is out.


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