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Game name, anyone? Maybe a mash-up of a few different classic FRC games?

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Lots of light references, combined with a heavy field, the new kinects to play with and the lack of a rack since 2006 on the field (not counting the 2010 bumps). I think the end game will be a kick of the hill thing like 2002 with a twist. In the last ~30seconds the divers view is blocked out by a curtain or similar (loss of light to the drivers). The human players in control of the kinects are still able to see the field and must drive there robots to the top of the ramps. No idea what were doing for the other 1:45 but this would be a very interesting end game.

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Thats an interesting idea. I doubt they would do a throwback, especially since they passed it over for their 20th anniversary. However, something with speed and a racing starting sign, the style you had, could be very interesting and highly probable. Only problem is it breaks the 'balls/no balls' pattern, as well as the heavy gamepieces hint.

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I don't understand the obsession with the ball-no-ball rule. 2008-2009-2010 were all ball games, so the pattern has already been broken.

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2009 wasn't an inflatable ball, and didn't really have the same properties as most balls.

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I like the way you think.

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2006's nerf ball wasn't inflatable either. Footballs are unlike any other ball, but are still balls. My case stands.

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The ball no ball pattern was broken with lunacy, like it or not. The sports related/non sports related pattern still stands however.

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actually, by definition, no. the definition of a ball is "a spherical or approximately spherical body or shape; sphere" (dictionary.com). The definition of a sphere is "a SOLID geometric figure..." The moon rocks weren't solid. I know it probably is a ball by looks and behavior, but I think if you want to be really technical, it's not a ball.

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I fail to see how lunacy balls would not fall into the ball category. Soccer balls are not SOLID, they are filled with air... Just like the orbit balls :cool:

And you cant say solid on the outside because wiffle balls have holes all over them.

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Then neither are tennis balls, basketballs, soccer balls, footballs or volleyballs.

I'll end this discussion with a prediction:

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also! the live test broadcast is showing a summer camp run by Matt Light (left tackle for the New England Patriots football team). It's a football game.

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Why not "Flash Forward" with autonomous opportunity to activate a gate (shooting object at target in Aim High type situation but in center of field) that activates a tiered light like last year's end game (first object through gets higher bonus, second next highest, etc...) and signaling successful activation allowing the robot to advance forward through a barrier for a bonus and some advantage for first alliance through gate? Just my 2.5 cents...

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Dark game with no field lights, footballs, use the Kinect to use hands to pick up the balls. Some type of "flashlight" on the bots.

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Has anyone considered the safety implications of a dark game with tunnels or curtains or anything of the sort? I think it may not be safe enough for field reset crew, drive teams, and robots for there to be an obscured field.

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Also, it would be far from audience friendly.

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I've brought that point up many times. It's valid, and the reason why we probably won't see a game like that. Even if it was just a curtain over the driver stations, drivers not being able to see their robots could result in a serious safety hazard if two robots were to become entangled, or if, say, a drivetrain exploded on the field.

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I would just like to note that our uUu conclusion was actually pretty correct. Go team!

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In retrospect, the source for our uUu ramp was completely wrong... even though it was kinda right. When you take the 4th Flash update into account, we'd have a uUuu ramp.