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I was about to say "hop to!"...and then realized that we don't know the volume of whatever's on these pallets...

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We can google the average pallet size! and other that other junk I typed earlier. lol.

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Here it is:
Tell me if any of my reasoning is wrong. I try to stick to topics other than guesstimating. lol.

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Whooooops. That's right. Ah well, my Christmas vacation just ended, I guess I'm a bit rusty:o

So that would mean that they want the Coopertition score to outweigh the deduction from the Qualification score by a bit. I think I like that...make it more to do with the score itself, and put the deduction in there to separate the close calls.

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Keep in mind that the actual pallet is just the wooden structure that a load rests on to make it more forklift/etc-friendly. There isn't really an average size for loads ;)

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That makes me feel intelligent. -sarcasm- Oh well, maybe I'll figure out something else to waste my time on. That explains why all my googling only gave two dimensions. Lol.

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You're making a lot of assumptions about the Coopertition score to come to the conclusion that "low qualifying score = good". Without knowing anything about how said score is calculated, I don't know if you can say much about what this means.

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Actually there is.

USDOT and Milspec (35 × 45.5 in / 889 × 1,156 mm). max weight ~ 2200 Lbs.


This size is used to accomodate going through doors.

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Woah! So it's not all for naught! :D

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However, from what I understand, there are multiple standards from multiple countries and from multiple companies, so there isn't a very reliable way to calculate it. :/ Unless we calculate it for each standard?

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While it's true that there are multiple standards for the different countries, the standard I posted is typical for the American markets ... where FIRST HQ is located.

Now the height (and thus cubic volume) is not standardized at all and thus makes our job a bit harder.

I would assume (SWAG) a max heigh of ~5' (or 60") because of tipping issues.

Hence 60"x35"x45.5"=95550 cu in.
Divided by 1000 lbs (the fourth pallet of a game specific item)
the items mass is 95 cuin / 1 lb (or roughly 4.5"x4.5"x4.6" for 1 lb)

pallet size divided by 1500 lbs (the 3 pallets of a game specific item)
the items mass is 63.7 cuin / 1 lb (or roughly 4"x4"x4" for 1 lb)

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I believe what Karibou was referring to was just that, that there were no height restrictions, so it'd basically just be a guess. But I'll go with your guess to run tests because I have nothing better to do until build season starts.
Football:
Volume filled: 2.54cm=1 inch 4237 cm cubed=258.557604 inches cubed
Volume unfilled (assuming the thickness of the of the bladder and such is .5 inches, in the absence of better data): pi*a(14cm)*b(8.5cm)=373.779 cm squared=57.9358609 inches squared*.5 inches= 29.9680 inches cubed.
mass (filled): 411g+9.67g=420.67g. =0.927418598 pounds, so filled, footballs are not a plausible option.
mass (unfilled): .90625 pounds, ratio: about 30inches cubed per pound. More plausible?
Basketball:
Much easier. :)
Mass (filled): 1.25 lb.
Mass (unfilled): 1.23 lb.
Volume filled: 455.9 inches cubed
Volume unfilled: 69.2522 inches squared (area of a cross section of it) *.5 (i really want a better measurement. X.x) = 34.626 inches cubed.
ratio filled: 364.2 inches cubed per lb
ratio unfilled: 28.15 inches cuber per lb
No go.
Frisbee (because I like frisbees :D):
given a 30mm frisbee:
Volume: 29.67 inches cubed
Mass: 0.385808959 pounds
ratio: 76.9 inches cubed per pound. <-Pretty darn close! :yikes: that'd be scary. I will work on more of these and post as I find.

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More options:
Tennis ball:
Volume: 5.9641 inches cubed
Mass: .125 lb
ratio: 47.7128 inches cubed per pound (16.7 off, viable option)
Golf Ball (I know it sounds ridiculous, but someone said that, so I'll do that math):
Volume: 2.4827 inches cubed
Mass: 0.10125 lb
ratio: 24.52049 inches cubed per lb.
I'm sort of out of ideas initially....

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Now that I think about it, we could use the ratios I just found to make possible heights for the pallets, then decide the most plausible height rather than just guessing. Then we make educated guesses.

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Upon brief examination, I'd guess it to be tennis balls.