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KrazyCarl92 07-01-2012 20:15

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Bloom (Post 1098504)
... but why bother?

Because it allows you to see the game and make quick changes to a robot concept without wasting much time to see what may make sense. I wouldn't trust it with becoming any sort of method for robot design, but it can be an aid in looking at game play and different capabilities. I'm a little concerned it may make some people tunnel visioned in terms of ideas though...

minibot263 07-01-2012 20:21

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
When I tried to apply for my team, it said team 263 is invalid.

cziggy343 07-01-2012 20:34

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
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Originally Posted by minibot263 (Post 1098519)
When I tried to apply for my team, it said team 263 is invalid.

Please check the city and state that the team contact put in TIMS against the city and state you are trying to register with on dbsgames.net. If you are still having issues, please email your team number, city, and state to support@dbsgames.net

cziggy343 07-01-2012 21:02

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
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Originally Posted by playbass06 (Post 1098509)
If I may ask, what legal reasons? 5th Gear has done a simulation for several years, and that wasn't one copy per team. I have attempted a simulation for the last two years as well.

We cannot go into details about the legal situation. However, we are looking into a release to the general public.

Quote:

Originally Posted by playbass06 (Post 1098509)
EDIT: No good on second install, either. It's not as good as the first desktop I tried it on, but specs are:

Windows 7 Home Premium 32
3 GHz Pentium 4 HT
2.25 GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce 9500 GT

A similar problem was noted on our forums (http://www.dbsgames.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13) Could this be your problem as well?

playbass06 07-01-2012 21:04

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
Same problem outlined, yes, but I'm not using Apple hardware with either system I tested.

cziggy343 07-01-2012 21:25

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
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Originally Posted by playbass06 (Post 1098620)
Same problem outlined, yes, but I'm not using Apple hardware with either system I tested.

Sorry for the inconveniences it caused. This was never an issue on any of the systems we tested on before release. We will look into the issue and will try to fix it in a future update. For now, our best suggestion is simply to not click outside of the windowed screen. :o

Flimsor 07-01-2012 22:58

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
Does anyone know if there is any way to play with more than one person, say on another computer so that we can have the full 6 players in a game. Also, is there a way to do that without having to play against another team, in case that resource is not available. One other thing, is there joystick support?

cziggy343 07-01-2012 23:16

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
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Originally Posted by Flimsor (Post 1098859)
Does anyone know if there is any way to play with more than one person, say on another computer so that we can have the full 6 players in a game.

That question can be answered in the link below by Eric.
http://dbsgames.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18

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Originally Posted by Flimsor (Post 1098859)
Also, is there a way to do that without having to play against another team, in case that resource is not available. One other thing, is there joystick support?

There is no network support in "Catalyst 2012 Team Edition".
You can have a full 6 player,3 on 3 on a single computer.

The way to do that is also in the link above.

Flimsor 07-01-2012 23:19

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
Thanks

Thundrio 08-01-2012 15:44

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
I really think this is a valuable tool, but there are issues that are just making it not quite worth it.

1)Our school district tends to have a very strict proxy that doesn't like programs connecting to the internet (besides web-browsers). Is there any way to set it to connect with certain proxy settings (the way you can with Netbeans for example)? It would be virtually impossible to have an exception made for Catalyst because AFAIK the network admin is quite busy (by the time we got him to do anything, it would probably be 2+ weeks into the season and past the point where it is very useful).

2)I tried taking it home and logging in there before bringing my laptop back to school, but I was logged out upon arrival. Why is there a need for such airtight DRM? Surely if I have verified my identify I shouldn't need a constant connection (I can't see why anybody NOT on a FIRST team (maybe some alumni) who would want to use Catalyst.

3)Also I want to report that the same bug of crashing after alt-tabbing for ~7+ seconds is happening to us on 2+ computers (both win7, and single monitor).

4)I encountered another bug last night where if I just was logged in with a 360 controller, and tried heading to the match lobby, it immediately exits back onto the menu (E.G. I mash a to get into the lobby but it wont go to the lobby). I had to log my keyboard in as a guest and go to the lobby that way. I have not tried to replicate this as I woke up having forgotten the password, and now I am at the school unable to log in.

5)A final graphical bug I encountered was when I tipped my robot over the graphics were strange. I can't replicate it for the same reason as #4 and I do not remember my specific parts. It would also be nice if my robot was automatically rerighted when tipped over (I was playing in practice with fouls off, so maybe with fouls on it works).

It is a cool piece of software, but to me it just feels a bit rushed without optional features that would be nice (camera control during the game?).

gyroscopeRaptor 08-01-2012 19:35

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
They stole our team name!

I'll wait until we play it to judge it though. Looks better than 5th gear already.

chillstrip 08-01-2012 19:41

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
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Originally Posted by cziggy343 (Post 1098373)
You may need to set your firewall to allow Catalyst 2012 to connect to the internet. You can also try making sure your antivirus software is not blocking the game. Let us know if this works for you.

We had the same problem, and checked if our firewall was interfering, we discovered that it was not. IF perhaps we missed something, what ports and properties do we need to use for it to work?

sanddrag 08-01-2012 19:47

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
This sounds awesome. However, I can't install it. The setup.exe does nothing. No progress on the progress bar.'

EDIT: It appears the above issue may be a problem with insufficient privileges on the user account, or some other school computer limitation.

To be brutally honest, the distribution and licensing of this product is rather terrible. However, I am grateful for all the work that went into it, if I can ever use it....

staplemonx 08-01-2012 19:49

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
Can you play multi player over the web?

Tom Line 08-01-2012 20:41

Re: 2012 Catalyst Simulator question
 
The game is quite neat. It definitely has some merit as a simulator, though you have to take something with a grain of salt (like the high accuracy from quite a distance away).

In addition, it's free. Can't complain about that. I remember 5th gear from last year - essentially unplayable.

Obviously there are some issues that could be improved.

1. Internet access should absolutely not be required to play or login.
2. One copy for a team of 40 or 50+ kids is odd problematic. I'm guessing the game engine that was used had a license restriction set on it, and that they can't go beyond it (hence 1 per team).
3. Network play would be nice.

Thanks for the great program guys. Nice work!


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