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Andrew Lawrence 07-01-2012 20:27

Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
What are your team strategies, ideas, or robot designs that you think will/won't work for 2012? How do you think matches will play out? How many offense? How many defense? What will YOU do?!

akoscielski3 07-01-2012 20:30

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
I was thinking on the way home about 1 robot delivers balls to your side, 1 shoots the balls into the goals and the other plays defense.

Robot design, i have a shooter, a picking up (conveyor type) mechanism, and maybe a thing that would catch rebounds or balls from in the air like a basket or something. Definitely dont like that we can only have 3 balls in our possession. -.-

Silver218 07-01-2012 20:33

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
For any defensive bots, what would be your teams strategy? We have talked about a defensive bot to possibly block shots from opposing teams

Daniel_LaFleur 07-01-2012 20:37

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver218 (Post 1098549)
For any defensive bots, what would be your teams strategy? We have talked about a defensive bot to possibly block shots from opposing teams

If we were to play defense (not sure yet), I'd defend the bump in the middle and keep my opponents from reloading, which will force their inbounders to put the balls into play on our side of the field without a robot there to pick them up.

akoscielski3 07-01-2012 20:38

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver218 (Post 1098549)
For any defensive bots, what would be your teams strategy? We have talked about a defensive bot to possibly block shots from opposing teams

Remember while in your alliance side your robot can not be taller than 60 in.

Vision 07-01-2012 20:42

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Rebound Rumble Ramp Challenge
www.TheRedAlliance.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLjgn67ArY

ToddF 07-01-2012 20:49

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Defensive spoilers:
- A defensive robot that funnels in rebounds becomes just another goal, if it has 3 balls in it's possession
- It's hard to block the shots of a robot taller than you are
- Inbounders can bounce pass balls to the far side of the field (see field tour videos on youtube)
- Entering the alley, to block bounce passes, invites G28/G44 penalties.

Todd F.

Grim Tuesday 07-01-2012 21:19

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1098589)
Defensive spoilers:
- A defensive robot that funnels in rebounds becomes just another goal, if it has 3 balls in it's possession

Todd F.

On that subject, any robot with 3 balls that stays on the defending end of the field, hoarding them, becomes another goal.

Richard Wallace 07-01-2012 21:28

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1098651)
On that subject, any robot with 3 balls that stays on the defending end of the field, hoarding them, becomes another goal.

Do you mean that forcing opposing robots to commit [G22] fouls, by shooting or dropping balls into them, is legitimate way to score? Wouldn't [G44] prevent this? I didn't find a [G22] exception to [G44] in the manual. ::rtm::

Andrew Lawrence 07-01-2012 21:31

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 1098670)
Do you mean that forcing opposing robots to commit [G22] fouls, by shooting or dropping balls into them, is legitimate way to score? Wouldn't [G44] prevent this? I didn't find a [G22] exception to [G44] in the manual. ::rtm::

What if you had a turret and it shot into an opponent robot's hopper and they already had 3? In this situation, it's clearly not on purpose, and the judges know that.

delsaner 07-01-2012 21:32

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver218 (Post 1098549)
For any defensive bots, what would be your teams strategy? We have talked about a defensive bot to possibly block shots from opposing teams

You could pick up the balls are on the opponents side and fire them towards (not necessarily in) your hoops. Instead of blocking shots, starve them of balls so there are no shots TO block. The benefits of this are that you can play defensive with an offensively designed robot.

EricLeifermann 07-01-2012 21:38

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1098589)
Defensive spoilers:
- A defensive robot that funnels in rebounds becomes just another goal, if it has 3 balls in it's possession
- It's hard to block the shots of a robot taller than you are
- Inbounders can bounce pass balls to the far side of the field (see field tour videos on youtube)
- Entering the alley, to block bounce passes, invites G28/G44 penalties.

Todd F.

Do you have a link to these videos?

gyroscopeRaptor 07-01-2012 21:39

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1098692)
Do you have a link to these videos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFiC..._order&list=UL is the first in the series of 5.

Ninja_Bait 07-01-2012 21:42

Re: Strategies for Rebound Rumble
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1098674)
What if you had a turret and it shot into an opponent robot's hopper and they already had 3? In this situation, it's clearly not on purpose, and the judges know that.

The blue box on G22 says that balls unintentionally "lodged" on your robot become actively controlled, and count toward the three ball limit. G44 would probably only stop applying if you did not try to get rid of balls.

EricLeifermann 07-01-2012 21:46

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Originally Posted by gyroscopeRaptor (Post 1098695)

Thanks, I was on FIRST youtube station but the videos weren't showing for me.


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