Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

Although it is not as strategically better to go for coopertition points as opposed to winning a match, it certainly is a lot more ensuring to go for coopertition. As long as one robot on the field can manipulate the bridge, it is very possible to get coopertition. The only time I can't imagine robots wanting to go for coopertition is if both alliances know its going to be a close match. Quite a few matches though are in fact a 1 sided battle, so coopertition benefits both the stronger and the weaker alliance.


Edit: Also have a quick question about choosing. If the other alliance came up to you and asked you to do it. What would you do?

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

What if there are 3 robots balanced the co-op bridge?

I know it's a long shot of this happening, but possible.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

more food for thought:

in elims, going for 3 may or may not be the best option... if you know you can get 3 on and you can do it consistently and reliably, then go for it. If you need 40 to win and 20 won't do it, then do it. otherwise, settle for 2, since 3 bots unbalanced is a big, fat 0.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

same thing as 2 on the bridge.

pointless.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

The third robot should balance on it's alliance bridge for an additional 10 points in any and all cases.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

I see three basic scenarios about where to balance at the end of the game.

Scenario 1) If I'm losing, and balancing on my alliance's bridge will not be enough points to win the match, then I will definitely attempt to balance on the coopertition bridge.

Scenario 2) If I'm winning, then I will definitely attempt to balance on the coopertition bridge because it will net me a total of 4 Qualifying Points out of the match, 2 more points than a losing alliance that did balance it or a winning alliance that did not balance it.

Scenario 3) The tricky scenario IMO is when I am losing, but by balancing on my own alliance bridge instead of balancing on the coopertition bridge I would win. At that point, I can only receive 2 Qualification Points either way. However, I can guarantee that I will get the points if I go to my alliance bridge and balance. There is no guarantee that the other alliance will join me on the coopertition bridge in this scenario. Would it make sense for them to do it, as suggested in the scenario 2? Yes. But that doesn't mean it will happen. For that reason, I would balance on my alliance's bridge in this situation before going to the coopertition bridge.

Granted, all of these scenarios do not take into consideration where I stand in relation to the robots I am playing against in the standings, but this is what makes sense to me for question "What bridge should I go for?".

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

Unless you want to prove you're capable of balancing three robots on a bridge and still get coopertition points.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

But when will you convince your alliance to go for this? The third could potentially unbalance the bridge and get you 0 instead of 20.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

This was in reference to having three teams on the coopertition bridge. I'm not endorsing the idea directly nor am I saying that it's a flawless plan. I'm simply identifying out that call the concept "pointless" is not accurate.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

In the case of a surrogate match, would it also not make sense to NOT go for the bridge? This case is ambiguous. You don't earn QPs during a surrogate match, but can you earn CPs? Do you get the QPs associated with said CPs?

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

In my opinion, it depends on the score spread. If the score is close enough that the results are heavily dependent on the end game, I would have two teams on the colored bridge and one team trying to score baskets in the last 30 seconds. Go for the win. If the score is far enough apart that it is an almost guaranteed win or a guaranteed lose, I would go to the co-opertition bridge.

Re: Deciding which bridge to go for
 

5.5.3 says, "Additional Qualification Points will be awarded to each team on an Alliance equal to any Coopertition Points earned."

Then 5.3.5 says, "A Surrogate receives zero Qualification Points."

(emphasis mine)

Since the CP's are converted to QP's, so to speak, I would think that a surrogate would receive no QP's from either source - not from winning, and not from balancing.

The same would apply to any team that is DQ'd. So, don't get red cards! And especially, don't forget to send at least one player to the Alliance Station even if your Robot will not be competing.