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Grim Tuesday 08-01-2012 00:37

The Barrier Thread
 
So lets talk about the barrier. The thing is a lot taller than you would think at first glance; 4". The 6" standard 6WD can't get over it, it would seem, though I would like to see someone do the math. Can the kitbot get over it?

Anyhow, how important do people think going over the barriers will be? And how do they plan to do so?

Steven Donow 08-01-2012 00:40

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Reaction while watching animation: "Pssh, it'll be easy, no different than going over the bump/ridge that divides tile and carpet(If that makes any sense)"

Reaction after ::rtm:: : "So let's get to work on deciding our bridge-going over mechanism"

the man 08-01-2012 00:42

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
A kit bot with 6in wheels could get over it if you had some spacers between the wheels and frame. This would raise the frame just high enough to let it get over. Not sure how bumpy it would be but it could work.

mdiradoorian 08-01-2012 00:42

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Actually you can get a 6" wheel over the barrier if you have the momentum and tread to do so.

the man 08-01-2012 00:47

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Well if you have all six wheels driven and a full weight robot I think it would be quite easy. maybe not very effective. Heck it might damage the wheels after repeated use.

Duke461 08-01-2012 00:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1099060)
Actually you can get a 6" wheel over the barrier if you have the momentum and tread to do so.

While I cannot give any proof on this, I can fairly certainly say you do not want to brute force over the hump; i feel you could have serious damage to your wheels. I saw teams break their wheels coming down from hard landings in breakaway.

thejoker2605 08-01-2012 00:48

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
We are thinking that with big enough wheels the barrier shouldn't be to rough. I think it will be important to avoid traffic jams at the bridges but not important enough to warrant another system.

davidthefat 08-01-2012 00:49

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1099074)
While I cannot give any proof on this, I can fairly certainly say you do not want to brute force over the hump; i feel you could have serious damage to your wheels. I saw teams break their wheels coming down from hard landings in breakaway.

Yep, our 2010 robot broke one of her wheels.

Grim Tuesday 08-01-2012 00:49

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Breakaway was a much higher drop, though.

EDIT: How would we do the math for this?

mdiradoorian 08-01-2012 00:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke461 (Post 1099074)
While I cannot give any proof on this, I can fairly certainly say you do not want to brute force over the hump; i feel you could have serious damage to your wheels. I saw teams break their wheels coming down from hard landings in breakaway.

look at my signature link click on update 7 and see our video of what we were trying to do today.

davidthefat 08-01-2012 00:52

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1099078)
look at my signature link click on update 7 and see our video of what we were trying to do today.

But you had that little thing in front. Do you think something similar will go through inspection?

Grim Tuesday 08-01-2012 00:53

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
But what if you load your robot with an extra 90 lbs?

EDIT: And it also breaks the bumper rules; those are uncovered corners.

mdiradoorian 08-01-2012 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1099083)
But you had that little thing in front. Do you think something similar will go through inspection?

It will be underneath our bumper.

Duke461 08-01-2012 00:56

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1099078)
look at my signature link click on update 7 and see our video of what we were trying to do today.

Is that even steel that you're running over?
And the other two are correct; you're violating bumper rules and your robot is very lightweight. In addition to this, because the person on the left didn't hold onto the strip, your robot is not taking as much force. Also, the repeated attempts will put a large wear and tear on your wheels/robot.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiradoorian (Post 1099088)
It will be underneath our bumper.

How would you manage to put the bumper around that while still having an effect?

mdiradoorian 08-01-2012 00:58

Re: The Barrier Thread
 
it is a prototype on the first day and we have other thoughts of getting over the barrier.

come on we have not thought of everything yet just wait in the next couple days we will have something.


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