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Elgin Clock 19-01-2012 19:51

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 
Where can we purchase spare MOTORS ONLY for the AM-0914 (RS775 series motor)?

http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0914.htm

Do we HAVE to buy the complete assembly to get the same EXACT motor?

Alternitively... what is the difference (if any) between the RS775 motor included in the AM-0914 assembly & this: http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0912.htm

Thanks in advance all!

Ether 19-01-2012 19:58

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 1109304)
what is the difference (if any) between the RS775 motor included in the AM-0914 assembly & this: http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0912.htm

Well, the stall current for the am-0912 is 63.8 amps, whereas the stall current for the am-0914 is 22 amps, so the motors are substantially different.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...torInfo4.1.pdf


Elgin Clock 19-01-2012 20:22

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1109314)


Well, the stall current for the am-0912 is 63.8 amps, whereas the stall current for the am-0914 is 22 amps, so the motors are substantially different.

http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default...torInfo4.1.pdf

Are we still taking the info that is on that spec sheet as legit? :rolleyes:

Anyways, I think I answered my own question.

I believe after doing some further research that the http://banebots.com/pc/MOTOR-BRUSH/M5-RS775-12 is the exact replacement motor I'm looking for.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Ether 19-01-2012 20:40

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 1109335)
Are we still taking the info that is on that spec sheet as legit?

The stall currents of the am-0912 and am-0914 are too far apart to be due to uncertainties in the specs.

Quote:

I believe after doing some further research that the http://banebots.com/pc/MOTOR-BRUSH/M5-RS775-12 is the exact replacement motor I'm looking for.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
The stall current of the 775-12 is 30 amps, not 22. The max power of the 775-12 is 83 watts; the max power of the am-0914 is 49 watts. Not the exact same motor.



fox46 30-01-2012 12:00

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 
Does anyone have any information on which FisherPrice motors have internal protection and what kind - ie: Thermal/Current etc?

Furthermore, is the internal protection device considered integral to the motor? Are we permitted to remove the internal protection?

One of my teams powered up their shooter this weekend running two FP motors on an AM double doozie gearbox and it appears there is overload protection built into some of these motors. We tried both with the motors from this year's KOP, as well as the 9015 (I believe.. could have been 9012s though, I am having trouble remembering) and observed similar behavior as each motor would cycle on and off independently from each other (visible by observing the arcing brushes) two or three times until the wheel reached operating speed (takes about 3 sec). This is running them directly off a battery. The flywheel is a 10"x6" aluminum ATV rim directly driven off the double doozie and does indeed suck quite a bit of power until it is up to speed but the load is not unreasonable IMO. The motors while running are warm but not what I would consider hot as I can easily hold my hand around either one with no discomfort. The protection method does not seem to be thermal as they would cycle on/off with a cycle time of about a half second during wind up from a cold start which does not sound like a thermistor type of protection to me rather than a bi-metal type circuit breaker. I suppose it is also possible that the protection device in one motor is weaker than the other and through the action of cutting out, it is dumping more load on the other and causing it to trip. I can appreciate having internal protection on these but it is going to be rather annoying writing a startup function for the shooter.

We tried powering the 2012 motors through both combination of poles on the back of them thinking one pole would bypass the protection device however, it did not work.

fox46 01-02-2012 06:54

Re: Official 2012 Motors Models and Specs Thread
 
**Bump**

Anyone??


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