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ProgramLuke 08-01-2012 15:38

Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Is your team going with a wide or a long drivebase?

Long
Pros:
Not Tippy
Cons
Longer base takes up more room on bridge

Wide
Pros:
Takes up less room on bridge

Cons:
Tippy

Anything else?

Andrew Lawrence 08-01-2012 15:42

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
tippy tippy tippy. If you're going over the bump, or even over the bridge, you almost always have a large chance of tipping.

Mr. Lim 08-01-2012 16:24

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Largest bumper gap for a ball intake?

Mk.32 08-01-2012 16:25

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Lim (Post 1099653)
Largest bumper gap for a ball intake?

well you can only pick up 3 balls at most....

BrendanB 08-01-2012 16:26

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
If you want to be picked for elims then go wide. No long robot will get on that bridge with two other robots and balance.

Three wides will fit with 11inches of overhang. If one of those is long you are never balancing.

MrForbes 08-01-2012 16:35

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1099655)
If you want to be picked for elims then go wide.

What if you want to be one of the picking teams in elims? There might be some other considerations too....

bearbot 08-01-2012 16:36

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
you could have bots one wide then long then another wide and to balance it out you shift the long bot

Ninja_Bait 08-01-2012 17:59

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
I vote square bot. My team disagrees but I like it.

Actually, what I really want is a bot that's tiny but still shoots. That would make me happy on the inside.

Djur 08-01-2012 18:01

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Use holonomic or mecanum, you'll have both.

RyanCahoon 08-01-2012 18:01

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1099655)
If you want to be picked for elims then go wide. No long robot will get on that bridge with two other robots and balance.

Three wides will fit with 11inches of overhang. If one of those is long you are never balancing.

What if the long-bot turns 90* after it's on the bridge?

Djur 08-01-2012 18:34

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanCahoon (Post 1099747)
What if the long-bot turns 90* after it's on the bridge?

It'll have to be perfectly balanced, and turning with 2 other robots on the bridge will be hard if not impossible.

Tom I 08-01-2012 18:38

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
The transverse (wide) bot does have its advantages. For one, you have a greater pick up area. Even though you can only carry 3 balls, it'll still be easier if you don't have to worry about being perfectly aligned, you can just run over the balls and grab them. Also, there is a greater chance for tipping, but if you keep a LOW center of gravity, you'll be fine. My team had a transverse bot in 06 and we had no problems, and that was with a giant ramp that you had to climb at the end. It shouldn't be a problem. But hey, it's up to team decisions, you should have your chassis fit the rest of your robot's functionality.

GBilletdeaux930 08-01-2012 18:38

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Djur (Post 1099794)
It'll have to be perfectly balanced, and turning with 2 other robots on the bridge will be hard if not impossible.

I think you are overestimating how tippy the bridge is. You can be pretty offset and the bridge will still stay "balanced"

http://youtu.be/-AMaqqmoLgQ?t=1m27s

Sean Raia 08-01-2012 18:41

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GBilletdeaux930 (Post 1099803)
I think you are overestimating how tippy the bridge is. You can be pretty offset and the bridge will still stay "balanced"

http://youtu.be/-AMaqqmoLgQ?t=1m27s

Everyone seems to be overestimating this. I predict it will be harder to get two robots on one bridge than it will be to balance the bridge when they are on it.

Grim Tuesday 08-01-2012 18:42

Re: Long vs. Wide Drivebase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GBilletdeaux930 (Post 1099803)
I think you are overestimating how tippy the bridge is. You can be pretty offset and the bridge will still stay "balanced"

http://youtu.be/-AMaqqmoLgQ?t=1m27s

But the bridges are pretty slanted; that might make it tricky for a 'wide' one to climb and climb over them.


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