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alxg833 03-02-2013 23:53

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Also, my school's email was down for a few days. If you sent me something, and I didn't respond, I'm really sorry. I'll be able to tackle my emails tomorrow, once my school gets itself together.

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Originally Posted by ILikePizza555 (Post 1225694)
. Email me if your interested in helping out.

I can't find your email address anywhere. Could you post it so I could get in touch?

Also, thank you guys so much. FIRST means so much to me and it's heartwarming to know I won't have to leave the activity for trivial reasons. You guys are really generous, and it's hard to find the words to express my gratitude. Thank you guys so much.

ILikePizza555 05-02-2013 00:39

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Originally Posted by alxg833 (Post 1227196)
I can't find your email address anywhere. Could you post it so I could get in touch?

Also, thank you guys so much. FIRST means so much to me and it's heartwarming to know I won't have to leave the activity for trivial reasons. You guys are really generous, and it's hard to find the words to express my gratitude. Thank you guys so much.

Sorry, but we managed fix our problem (bad wiring). Now, the programming team and the build team are trying to figure out why the drive system isn't working as it should. Keep in touch though, no one in our team understands PID and I'm pretty sure we are going to run into some huge obstacles down the road.

My email is: avrisaac555@gmail.com

Keyreaper 05-02-2013 10:55

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Originally Posted by ILikePizza555 (Post 1227794)
Sorry, but we managed fix our problem (bad wiring). Now, the programming team and the build team are trying to figure out why the drive system isn't working as it should. Keep in touch though, no one in our team understands PID and I'm pretty sure we are going to run into some huge obstacles down the road.

My email is: avrisaac555@gmail.com

PID's... Hrm? I don't know what they are but they keep apearing quite often. And I don't know how they work or what they do D:.

aeniug2 05-02-2013 11:34

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Originally Posted by Keyreaper (Post 1227942)
PID's... Hrm? I don't know what they are but they keep apearing quite often. And I don't know how they work or what they do D:.

PIDs? Sounds important..... Sounds like I have some reading to do.....

Nirvash 05-02-2013 13:39

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PID is a nice controller? to get something to be at something else.
Ie, Flywheel to be at X RPMs, or move an arm so a POT is at X volts.

We used it on our shooter last year. Labview(if you use it) has some nice examples on it. It's just a pain to tune.

Not sure if we are going to use that this year, or try Bang-bang.

rl1806 05-02-2013 20:10

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PID is a controller that uses Proportional, Integral, and Derivative equations to controla linear system. Cruise control in a car is a good example of how PID is used; the car knows how fast it is going, how fast the driver wants to go, and the computer does calculations to determine how much power to send to the wheels.

Wikipedia has some good information about how PID works, some information on manual tuning, and how adjusting each parameter changes how the system reacts.

Bang-bang control a quick implementation PID, with the P gain set high and ID set to zero, and with only on and off output instead of the full range of values the motor controllers can accept. Theincreased complexity of PID comes with the increased control over the system.

We used both bang-bang and PID a few days ago on our shooter motor; both worked however PID was smoother and allows you to set any speed instead of having to hard code values.

ILikePizza555 05-02-2013 20:57

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Originally Posted by rl1806 (Post 1228384)
Wikipedia has some good information about how PID works, some information on manual tuning, and how adjusting each parameter changes how the system reacts.

I saw that,I just don't know how to use the math on there :/

rl1806 05-02-2013 22:50

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I used the manual tuning method in 2011 when I programmed a crab drive system. The way I tuned the PID was I set all 3 values to 0 and then increased the “P” value until it oscillated around the set point. I then started increasing “I” until the oscillation settled down. For the crab drive system just using the “PI” was sufficient; for a flywheel you might need to put a small value in for “D” to smooth out the change in speed caused by firing a Frisbee.

I tuned the system completely by adjusting the values one at a time until I got to a system behave like I wanted it to. After about 2 hours, without using any of the advanced math, I was able to get the PID for both sides of the robot tuned in. The Wikipedia link I posted links to the section that describes how to tune the PID without math. Once you get a sense of how each value effects the system it becomes easier to tune it.

I came up with the following scenario after teaching myself how to tune the PID on the crab driver system:
A very simplified scenario of how PID works is a car is driving down the highway at 55 MPH and the driver wants to go 70 MPH. The “P” value would be how hard they step on the gas to accelerate; the greater the “P” value the harder they stop on the gas. The “I” value would be how quickly the driver changes the pressure on the accelerator as they approach 70 MPH; a larger value results in getting to 70 MPH quicker but overshooting 70 and having to slow down. Finally the “D” value would be how smoothly the driver corrects for the speed not being 70 MPH; a larger value means the driver is more likely to overshoot 70 MPH initially but the overall speed changes will be smoother and not bounce above and below 70 as much.
Hope this could help.

z_beeblebrox 05-02-2013 23:07

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This is useful, but it isn't ponies! :cool:


ILikePizza555 06-02-2013 00:50

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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1228497)
This is useful, but it isn't ponies! :cool:

Just a head's up, it's better to put large images in spoliers because then we don't have a giant post of images accounting for more than half of the page. Although I agree, we need moar ponies.

Nirvash 06-02-2013 01:41

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Reminds me to ask, who is this pony that I've seen in a couple signatures?

Keyreaper 06-02-2013 12:16

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Ah well you see... Me and aeniug2 made that one day out of boredom over skype. I took some RD vectors I had lying around on my desktop and recolored it, then he made the sick background and text. He did most of the work. Props to his skill he can make some pretty cool things :D.

alxg833 06-02-2013 17:12

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That OC is really cool. I always thought FIRST needed a few good OC's. Judging by the kind of activity it is, I'm surprised we don't have more bronies. On a side note, would it be rude to send emails asking for "assignments"? Just wondering, on account of the fact that my situation is kind of weird. :confused:

Also, my avatar's now obsolete, so should I edit it in photoshop or something, or keep it the way it is?

Larmahaffy 06-02-2013 17:33

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Originally Posted by alxg833 (Post 1228967)
Also, my avatar's now obsolete, so should I edit it in photoshop or something, or keep it the way it is?

Keep it, she was like that for most of the show. If thats how you fell in love with her then thats a good way for her to be ;)

Igors20 06-02-2013 17:53

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Originally Posted by alxg833 (Post 1228967)
Also, my avatar's now obsolete, so should I edit it in photoshop or something, or keep it the way it is?

No, the image of Twilight Sparkle will still remain a unicorn.


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