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Ok, I'll try to go point by point.

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Originally posted by J 188


No, those are also different, just like motor vehicles. Lemme try to summarize what I'm trying to say:

Reasons to ban guns:
1) they are commonly used as devices for killing, unlike swords, bows, pencils, junk food, etc.
SO? I don't see your logical connection here. And please, instead of killing, say murder. Let me try to explain. This is how I see your argument: "Object X is often used in Crime A, so we should ban Object X"

Now, if the ONLY use for a gun were use in a murder, I MIGHT see your argument a little clearer. But as it stands, there are many uses for guns. And might I ask: What is so morraly wrong with owning a gun, that it justifies criminal punishment? If I own a pistol, am I somehow a bad person, unfit to function in society?

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2) of all the commonly used devices to hurt others, guns are the most lethal (the others including baseball bats, knives, etc)
Again, I fail to see any argument here. Because guns are leathal, and they are commonly used to hurt others, they should be banned? (And who decides what is MOST leathal, and once guns are out of the scene, then something else becomes most leathal ... do we ban that too?). You see, just because guns CAN be leathal, and CAN be used to hurt others does not mean that is ALL they do. And it most certainly does not mean that the mere act of owning a gun is morally wrong and cause for criminal punishment.

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2) when people kill others with guns, it's generally not an accident. Vehicle-related deaths, or death by electrocution, etc, are mostly accidents, results of poor technique/negligence.
And when they kill others with guns non-accidentally ... IT'S ALREADY A CRIME! Why then make owning a gun a crime?

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3) aside from law enforcement, society doesn't require guns to function - this is shown in other countries where firearms are banned.
Oh, I see. So our government does not trust us with guns, but we trust our government with guns. Riiight.

Stephen