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Re: Banebots RS-775 Case Short

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Originally Posted by Andy Baker View Post
That 8-10 day delay was posted about 10 days ago. We have not received the new shipment from F-P yet, but we will within a day. Once these are here, then we will open up orders. I really don't like opening up order for items like this until we see the motors here.

So, my best guess is that they will be available again at AndyMark by Wednesday, March 16.

And... yes, in a general sense, we are looking at this entire issue and seeking ways to improve things for the FIRST community next year. I don't want to go into specifics publicly, but I am very open for suggestions regarding what to do for 2012.

Andy B.
My vote would be for a limit of 12 motors.
Teams could choose between CIM,FP, Window with a maximum of 4 each.

with a variety of options already available commercially and team designed...FP motors can be used in most situations and gearboxes designed for CIMS... ( The same way that the banebots motors could...)

But honestly I see no advantage to Window motors... but for variety... fine..

I honestly don't think that all CIMS is a good idea... they are too heavy for many extended applications like a roller claw or something where the motor has to be moved... so the FP is a good substitute.. being lighter.

I like the banebot gearboxes so I think we shouldn't really toss Banebot out for one of their motors...

Our team is using the 550 motor... it seems to work quite well... and it could be substituted into most applications that teams were using the 575's for... we have never seen the case short problem in those motors.

I have used these motors in a number of other applications in classes and they are pretty decent as long as they are supported and the load is supported...they also have the advantage of being really cheap... the form factor is exactly the same as the FP...

We thought about using the RS-775 and ended up using something we had some experience with... the 550... it ended up to work quite well for our application. (An elevator)

I concur with everyone's complaint that Banebot should be standing behind their product. If you remember though, back a few years ago... they did do that... providing new plates for the transmissions that were provided to us...at quite a cost to them as I recall... so I wouldn't write them off... completely... I would imagine that this year was nightmare to them because of their shipping delays and this 775 issue.

They do provide a nice competitive gearbox in a number of ratios for use on our robots with either their motors or the FP.

I like having options... and I really missed having the option of 2 FP motors this year.

Just remember that if you are using the 775 and want to substitute the FP ... that you can substitute the 550 that this is perfectly legal and not too far off the power curve...
You can do that right NOW... without any special action by the GDC

We have never seen this case short problem with a 550...Has anyone else out there?

Good luck on the field...
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