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Re: Another Culture Change

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Originally Posted by Steve_Alaniz View Post
PLEASE

End this thread.

It went from reporting inappropriate actions to labeling people "Haters". "Haters?" You mean the people we mentor? The young men and women in their TEENS we are trying to inspire? There are many inappropriate actions that are successfully handled by mentors and these incidents are never brought up again. What happened to 1114 is regrettable and indefensible but to label those teams, students, (mentors) who boo'd as "Haters" is over the pale.
The powerhouse teams are NOT victims. The people who rival them are NOT Haters and if there is that much sensitivity, then frankly there needs to be introspection. It's NOT about the robots... It's NOT about winning... it's about inspiration. And there is no greater inspiration than a mentor instructing their team..or even another team, on the appropriate way to handle their disappointment. It's a bitter pill to swallow...simply because it is...someone with greater resources bested you... did a better job... or simply lucked out... but you applaud the winners because it is right.

Steve
I cosign this almost fully.
At first, we hear about in first such as how one day it will be a first student to end world poverty, provide clean water to the world, and cure cancer. This implies that lift is not fair and that it is our job to help make it fair by helping others.

You know what is not fair, having mentors design and build robots while kids get "inspired."
Although some call it fair, most of society would call it unfair. Not to compare something as trivial as how well your team's robot does to world wide issues, but you do as well as you do in first many times because of simply what school you go to.

I don't know why people want to silence public discourse on the matter. Yeah, what happened to simbotics sucks and should never happen, but is it that hard to believe?
I'll be the first person to admit that I dislike the idea of mentors fully designing and cading robots and having those mentors/ a shop put it together. I instantly shot down the idea of having that happen to the team that I started and mentor. I couldn't/still can't see how students could have fun and take pride in their robot if they weren't the ones putting in the work for build design and debugging.

I simply cannot see how a student can be inspired when they havent made extensive contributions to their machine. I think inspiration comes from the students seeing what they built and seeing it run and run well, Not seeing an engineer built robot dominate a bunch of other teams. At that point it isn't a high school robotics competition.

Forgive me if you disagree with me and forgive me if thus doesn't make too much sense for I have been up late catching up on school work.