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Re: Top 25 ETCs after Week 3

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Originally Posted by JesseK View Post
Oy, I must have missed the thread that said what ETC and EMC are and why they're all the rave right now. I mean, OPR in and of itself isn't a really good metric since minibots more of a binary thing than a linear scoring thing.

IMO, judging from what I watched in Weeks 1-3, Tubes may give a decent gauge for OPR as it relates to tubes if the OPR excludes minibot. Yet minibots themselves can only come from watching the field since the data doesn't give a specific team for each bonus.
I think Logomotion is a game of diminishing returns which is difficult for all the metrics. So really good alliances are often less than the sum of their parts. It is easiest to visualize this by looking at JVN's scoring matrix. Those Ubertubes you put up high in auton are worth big points (2-4 times more than teleop). Then you form a high logos over those Ubertubes, again big points. Now you are out of High pegs so each additional tube is only worth a fraction of the points. If you are really great, you have to start working on the low pegs, where you have to wonder: At 1pt/tube is this even worth it or should I get ready for the minibot race? Additionally, 3 great hangers would still have to share 2 racks, which limits each individual scoring potential.

Minibot race is the same way. if you have the fastest minibot out there it is worth 30 pts. Your partner's mini bot is a tenth of a sec slower but it is only worth 20 pts. Your 3rd partner my have an equally fast minibot but it is always worth 0 since they cant legally deploy it. Now lets say your opponents have ridiculously slow minibots (like 15 sec). They still can get 25 combined points as long as they deploy them. Chances are in some matches they would get 50 pts with their slow minibots because their opponents dont have any.

Metrics like OPR are a good jumping off point but you still need real scouting to make an educated decision. ETC is still a work in progress but it is interesting to see the minibot scores separated.
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