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Originally Posted by pfreivald
...if you have to ask...
No, really. If you have to ask this question, then there is a severe disconnect between what you understand about a "game" and a "tournament" and what I do. In a fair, reasonable, normal tournament, each party tries to win each game (that is, each *match*), and can expect their opponents to do the same.
This is what was wrong with 6v0 (which I am glad the GDC clarified), and I can only imagine that the reason the GDC hasn't clarified that throwing games isn't GP is because it's bleedingly freaking obvious.
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I think the disconnect that occurs is most people's belief about what the word "fair" means in these sorts of conversations, and what is actually possible for it to mean. When I was introduced to that notion many years ago, I found it to be a powerful bit of information.
If you dig into the topic you will find there is pretty much no such thing as properly using a simple unadorned and naked "fair" to describe a situation, rule, etc. like the ones we are discussing.
A situation, rule, practice, whatever, can only be
fair in some sense. And, no matter what that sense is, I have found that it is always relatively easy for a reasonable person to describe a reasonable sense in which the thing/concept is not fair.
Sometimes (often?) the sense in which fairness is being claimed can be taken from the context of the conversation; but in this situation, I couldn't puzzle it out. So I asked.
To be honest with you, to me at least, how much effort gets put into winning a game would seem to have little bearing on whether or not the game (the game rules) are fair.
Also if one party simply announces that they are not going to attempt to win, I hardly see how the other player(s) can shout "That's not fair!" In that case the audience might be disappointed that they won't be watching a battle of the titans for the next few minutes, but that doesn't seem to be a fairness subject either.
I remain unconvinced.
Blake
PS: Oh by the way, isn't it bleedingly obvious that publicly announcing that a team and its allies are purposefully and notoriously going carry out what they hope will be a tournament-winning strategy by ceding a match to the other alliance, is a very poor match for the phrase "throwing a match" - Sheesh! - Throwing a match is bad, but I don't think that we are discussing throwing a match. If we can't get past that, I doubt we will ever meet anywhere near the middle on this topic. Should we call it a day and move on?