[ratdude747]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

I believe there were 3 or 4 (not sure about 25) teams on Einstien who did not score a logo piece.

I think your idea that you only play defense if you plan to have a bad manipulator is very flawed. I'm pretty sure teams like 469, 71, 1625, 25, 973, 968, and 217 (all of which played defense more than once) thought they would have a good manipulator (and all did).

thats not what I was meaning. my point was if one wants offense and screws up the design, you will be stuck playing defense like it or not.

playing defense beacuse you elect to and playing defense because thats all you have left are not the same. all of your examples are elective defense moments, not forced (you said so).

I might also point out that not every bot on Einstein played defense at one point either. defense is not necessarily a "must have" to be successful. It all comes down to how one wishes to play the game.

bottom line: add defense if you want, just be aware that if you want more, design your manipulator carefully and remember Karthik's golden rules: don't bite off more than you can chew and its better to be good at one thing and poor at the rest than so-so at everything.