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Re: What won in 2006?

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Originally Posted by gblake View Post
I'll repeat; take a look how the Poofs made us of the autonomous time. I didn't talk to them about it; but I believe their successful strategy included purposefully losing the Autonomous period. That creates a good argument against saying that winning the autonomous bonus was important, and instead supports a counter-intuitive assertion that winning autonomous could be a problem instead of a benefit.
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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 View Post
I don't think I've seen any vids of 254 during that regional, but perhaps they knew their auto wasn't accurate enough to win the auto periode, so they saved their balls for teleoperated when they were more accurate. If this is the case, while it is a wise call by 254, it does not support the arguement that autonomous is not that important. I'm sure they would rather have an accurate auto and win autonomous than an inaccurate one and save thier shots for teleoperated.
This strategy was employed against us on Einstein by the 25/968/195 allaince in the 2nd and 3rd matches after we beat them big in the first match. (The explaination here is me paraphrasing a member of 25 i talked to about this)The reason this was done was because our alliance was hitting 17-20 balls in auto all through elims. The opposing alliance knew they would lose to that and our defense in auto. They were more accurate in human control and didn't want to unload and lose balls that didn't score. Thus they would be in good position to score 20+ balls right as the first period started and their human players could reload 25 and get in more runs because all our balls were in their goal. In the end this strategy had nothing to do with the outcome of the matches. In match 2 we were ahead until 968 pushed us over backwards when we tried to pin them on the ramp (A perfectly legal play that year) making a 3 on 2 our alliance couldn't overcome. In match 3 1126's shooter broke in auton and we didn't have the needed firepower anymore.

The only reason to play this way is if you weren'y accurate in auton so you wanted to be loaded and ready for human control and not have to reload before you start playing offense.
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