[Snow_White]

Hey everyone,

I have read most of the article and your opinions and I thought to shed a light over what is going on overseas.
I am from Israel and I am also a university student there, even though I am not taking anything related to engineering, I am taking several math classes and stats classes. I am doing a double major in psychology and biology.

here in Israel things are a little different since not like in other countries we have to draft to the army fresh out of high-school. girls serve for 2 years and guys serve for 3. after that we need to do an exam that is similar to the SAT's in order to get in to universities. (BTW the funny thing is you need to get a higher score in that said test in order to get in psychology then into engineering).
(just for the record we are now an average of 3-4 years after high-school when we had any kind of class, math included).
most of us usually work for a while because we don't have students loans here usually (most people don't take them anyway) so we pretty much pay for tuition ourselves or our parents do.

so basically we go into university 4-6 years after we graduated from high school, without remembering anything about math, equations, or even chemistry, biology, anything like that, and of course we start at a university level math which as you all know is not that easy.
that make most people fail the classes, or simply drop out of them.
and not just in engineering.

I also believe that if we have more engineers, they will have work. the science field and engineering fields keep growing and finding new ways to combine fields that are no necessarily related (such as psychology and biology).

just a point for thought.


Or from Israel