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Re: What is your cooperition bridge plan?
What is going to make this interesting, is that three robots are on an alliance trying to get as many qualification points as possible.
I can imagine that on one alliance two powerhouses and one decent are against two powerhouses and one decent. The two powerhouse teams on both sides do not want to cooperate to ensure their place in the rankings. However, in the end, both of the decent robots from the two alliances Cooperate because THEY want the boost in points. Do the powerhouse teams bully the decent teams into not cooperating? Bribe them with "If you won't coop we will pick you as are second choice."?
If at all - that is the only problem I see with this ranking system. Otherwise, if you want to ensure that your powerhouse robot is actually as powerhouse you and everyone claims, you will have that robot coop every single match. If a robot that loses a bunch of matches ends up in first seed because they cooperated, that's the reward they get. If a robot can score 60 points in Teleop but can't get on that bridge at the end of the match, how "powerhouse" are they? Plus that helps in splitting the powerhouse teams anyway! I see that part of the ranking system as a Win-win. This is probably the reason Paul is talking about a blacklist, because to not coop for the sake in lowering another team's qualification score can really hurt their chances, so its very easy to say that a team will blacklist you and hurt your chances in the elims. I remember that line in the animation "Team will have to cooperate if they want to be successful." Regardless of winning or losing the match, someone in your alliance needs to cooperate or else 3 teams will have been "Disqualified" and 3 teams will have "lost" in one match.
In previous FIRST games, powerhouse teams just plain won. Sure they had to fight for it, but you could tell from the beginning of the match who would come out on top. In this game, the so-called powerhouse teams will have to prove they are and ensure they can follow the rules of the game by ending up on that bridge with an opposing robot at the end of the match - even if they have to do it 45 seconds left to go. This extra tension will not necessarily "level the playing field", but challenge the otherwise uncontested "powerhouse robots" to reach that number 1 seed.
And I mean come on - If you are a very low seed robot, and some teams like the Thunderchickens could possibly choose you as their second elimination selection simply because of your ability to balance with them on a bridge, why would you say no?
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Last edited by Tetraman : 14-01-2012 at 08:32.
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