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Re: Drivetrain Only Strategies???

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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 View Post
I don't think I would need to avoid contact with opposing robot when in my lane. If I herd 5 balls into the lane (never touching more than 2 at a time), I should be able to strafe along the lane and block the opposing robots from getting to the balls. If we both end up in the lane and I push them away from the balls, I'd be pissed if I got a red card. The strategy isn't to draw penalites but to block them from getting to the balls.
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Originally Posted by nitneylion452 View Post
The best way to execute that strategy would be to remain outside the lane. If you remain in the lane, you are prohibiting contact and it would seem like you are trying to take advantage of [G44]. In my opinion, at least.
Exactly.

If you have 5 in the alley (even only contacting 3 at a time), there are multiple situational penalties that could be applied.

--[G22] for trapping/herding more than 3. Highly situational, so I'm not going to say for sure that it would be called. If called, 3 points/extra ball to your opponent.
--[G28] if you and an opponent make contact. Applied to them if you're in your alley. 3 points/hit to you.
--[G45] if it's deemed that you're using [G28] as a strategy. 9 points to your opponent, red card to you. Like it or not, that's how the rule is written. But the referees will have to make that determination.

So, if you have 5 balls in your alley, and you are blocking opponents from getting to them, you could end up with, depending on the situation:
-6 points for two extra balls in control of the robot
-9 points for using [G28] as a strategy
+3 points per hit
DQ for using [G28] as a strategy, which hurts your elimination chances.

Again, this is very situationally-dependent. If you're just sitting there, blocking access to 5 basketballs that are relatively free-moving, and not making any moves to hit someone else, I'd put it at a 75% or greater chance you don't get a red card, 50% or greater that you don't get any penalties at all. If you're sitting outside the alley, virtually 0% chance of penalty for that. If you're actively defending, I'd give it a minimum 50-50 of your getting a penalty and more like 67% chance of penalty.
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