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Re: Please Help: Sporadic operation: Electrostatic: Noisy Supply getting on rio?

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Originally Posted by mbone206 View Post
Drive would periodically have lag and when idle, make pop corn sounding noise on its own (solenoids)?
Depending on what you mean by popcorn noises, it could be:
  1. Circuit Breakers popping. Watch the PD for red flashing lights.
  2. Spike Relays firing. Watch their LEDs.
  3. Solenoids firing. Watch the LEDs on their controller (solenoid breakout or Spike), or feel them.
  4. Static discharge. This is more of a crackly noise.

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Originally Posted by mbone206 View Post
* Grounding: What is best way to Ground, here many opinions in links.. and what is legal.. Ground motors to chassis?
Need to isolate supply ground and Rio from chassis?
YES. You must isolate the cRIO from the chassis per R38. If your motors are are experience case faults, they too must be isolated from the chassis.


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2) Caps?: Does anyone use capacitors across motor terminals? Has this helped? What value do you use?
Power Supply: Does anyone ad addition caps on power supply line? I do not have an Oscope to see
noise on supply line possibly getting on Rio supply, but thought this could cause sporadic problems?
Capacitors are unlikely to help with the types of issues you are describing. Teams occasionally place small caps across motors to clean up with noise couple into their analog sensors. I wouldn't add capacitance to the cRIO's supply, it is already sufficiently bypassed.

As a side note, sometimes adding capacitance to a supply can make it unstable, as it tweaks the control loop unexpectedly. Current Gen PDs don't have this issue, but a 2009 PD might not respond well if you added e.g. an a large electrolytic cap near the 24V output. Unfortunately, usfirst.org has the old schematics up for some unknown reason.