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Originally Posted by fox46
Another strategy that has been theorized is the deliberate incursion of penalties. Say for example you are playing against an opposing team who have an exemplary robot and are in the top 8. Your team however has had some bad luck and aren't doing so hot. Theoretically you could make an agreement with one of the opposing teams that in exchange for incurring numerous penalties, they would choose you as their #3 team for eliminations. By racking up penalties and balancing the coopertition bridge you could skyrocket their ranking and allow them to have first or second pick of alliance partners. Your team, in return will look unfavorable as having incurred a pile of penalties but at the same time have secured a position in the eliminations on one of the top seeded alliances. You just have to hope someone else doesn't pick you first! - perhaps leave your robot sitting in the pit area with no wheels or something! A very devious but viable strategy.
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This is much harder to justify than the original statement. It is also less viable from a strategic point of view. You are giving another alliance everything they want from you and then hoping that they live up to their word, with no incentive for them except to avoid alienating you. Seeing as you are dealing with an alliance who clearly have few qualms about alienating teams, I'm not sure I'd trust them.
You could also look at a simpler form of this strategy where you don't have to play with the high ranked team at all. Instead three or four games from the end powerhouse team X goes to team Y and says:
"Hey, we really want you as our third, but we are sure someone else will pick you before we get a chance. Can you pretend you are having problems to drop your ranking and desirability?"
Then team Y does exactly that and everyone skips over them in selection assuming they are broken until we get to team X who gets a magically repaired awesome third pick.
That strategy has been open to teams for many years, but it has not been used to my knowledge. The fact that the community opposes this suggests you will have a hard time finding people who agree with throwing a match and pretending your robot is broken at the same time
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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
In 2010, FIRST made it abundantly clear that 6v0 was not the way they wanted to see matches played. If that's your best analogy, I'm unswayed. Actively "sabotaging" the co-op bridge crosses the line, in my opinion. And I'm a proponent of using seeding strategy.
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When did they do that? I thought 1114 and 469 did it anyways...