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Originally Posted by Bill_B
It's beginning to look like the double competition going on at tournaments is to "blame" for all the thoughts of "misbehavior." As long as there are two prizes, there will be turmoil in the strategies to attain them - both. Perhaps it is time to re-work the "minor" prize of alliance captains for eliminations. How would it be if the top 8 qualifiers still got to be captains, BUT the sequence of alliance selection were random? That is, you play to be a captain, but you don't know which seed you'll be until it happens. I don't know if this has been proposed before, but I'm sure there could be fairness tweaks to this that could iron out the wrinkles.
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No. No. No. A thousand times no.
Why are people taking measures to discourage excellence? Why are people attempting to encourage artificial parity? Is winning because of the dumb luck that you somehow managed to win the random selection order and pick a powerhouse really better than losing to that powerhouse? Would you be more proud of your effort/robot/team just because you lucked your way into a gold medal? Is it fair to the team who really did have a better performance in qualifications that they then lose the chance at gold?
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Originally Posted by Bill_B
Wouldn't this at least deal with the kind of scheming and collusion we've been considering so far? It's hard to believe that teams are going to get so worked up about knocking a "powerhouse" from 8th to 9th. They're going to get picked even if they're not a captain.
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Knocking the powerhouse from 8th to 9th isn't the big deal. It's removing them from the #1 seed. In the Canadian example that's dominating this thread, if another team ranks #1, they have the ability to separate 1114 and 2056. Instead of one superpower alliance, there are then two power alliances.
Additionally, knocking a team from 8th to, say, 11th or 12th does create a big difference. It puts their ability to decline an invitation in serious question, as they're no longer sure that they could move back up into the top 8 and become a captain. At 9th place, they're likely still confident that another top 8 seed will be picked and they can move up. At 10th, it begins to get hairy depending on how the field stacks up (see Galileo last season).