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Re: Coopertition - Not As Easy As It Looks!

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Originally Posted by lemiant View Post
I think it's reasonable to overlook Mr. Lim going around educating other teams about the coopertition bridge, and explaining how declining the powerhouses could affect the rankings. He was acting without this update, but for the future it is apparent that the GDC doesn't want this.
Alex,

This is a really interesting point.

I'm not sure if the GDC's update necessary wants us to stop educating other teams about the intricacies of the coopertition scoring system. Few teams realize just how much power they yield with a simple decision: "yes" or "no." Particularly when a large enough number of teams start making similar decisions. I think information like this should be shared and carefully discussed, because it certainly leads us all to be more "competent". To stop doing this could be detrimental, for a number of reasons.

We could be denying each other a wonderfully complex discussion and learning experience about what coopertition is, or should be.

Could you imagine if it became "unacceptable" for me to even post the questions I raised in the first post of this thread?

Coopertition in real life is just as, if not even more complex. Being a former executive, I can honestly tell you that helping or accepting help from each and every person I came across was not necessarily in the best interests of myself, the company, the community, the country, or society as a whole.

Each opportunity needed to be carefully considered, the pros and cons of each weighed competently, and the right decision being the one that helps the most while harming the fewest. In order to do this, you need to educate yourself, and hear as much as you can from all sides.

...but I digress...

I think what the GDC DOES make perfectly clear, is that once a team understands these "meta-coopertition" concepts, we MUST leave them to make their own decisions to act on them or not.

We should NEVER coerce, bully or force a team into making a decision they do not want to make. And this likely(?) works both ways, where a decision to say "no" to coopertition should be respected as much as a decision to say "yes."

I am optimistic that this GDC update will end these reported incidents of bullying and coercion, but teams still need to be VERY careful. Just because the GDC said it, doesn't mean it can't still happen.

If you read Gray Adam's post, he outlines a situation where bullying or coercion can happen very quickly, and unintentionally.

What if your alliance wants to do one thing, and you want to do another?

If you can't resolve an issue like this amicably, and within the short time you spend with your alliance in the queuing line... you can see how feeling bullied and coerced can happen really fast?

Imagine yourself in that position.


It may be the greatest test of Gracious Professionalism that FIRST has ever thrown at FRC teams.



A few of us didn't quite pass at GTR-E, but luckily we have a few more cracks at it.


More importantly, I am very confident that we will eventually get it right.
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Last edited by Mr. Lim : 15-03-2012 at 13:05.