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Unread 21-03-2012, 21:14
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Re: 2012 New York City Regional

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Originally Posted by NickTosta View Post
3. GraciousPro posting from an anonymous account

Guys, sometimes (read: almost always) this community is unnecessarily hostile to an individual that wishes to express an unpopular opinion, or wants to raise a possibly valid point against a team that is generally held in high esteem. Now, because the posts have been deleted, I am unsure as to whether or not GraciousPro expressed his opinions in an unnecessarily angry or derogatory fashion. Obviously, if he did then I can understand the resistance against this anonymous account, and I would agree that the posts should be deleted depending on the severity. However, if he was merely bringing up the issue of the possibly illegal events that transpired at New York, and was doing so in a fair and level way, I don't see why it should matter that he chose to do so from an alternate account.

Again, because of the sometimes hostile response to any member "rocking the boat" so to speak, I can totally understand why he would choose to post from an alternate account. I don't think that posting from an anonymous account is a reason to discount what he is saying, though. In fact, I would argue that someone posting anonymously would be much, much more honest and open than someone posting with their real name and team name.

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Also, does anyone know what happened with that whole "technical timeout" called by the lead robot inspector? I am totally in the dark about what happened there.
I have been following this thread since Sunday to see if these issues were brought up. I saw every one of GraciousPro's posts, and they were not hostile. Unfortunately, they made team 522 look bad, but the facts are the facts. This thread isn't an argument at all, it's a log of the unfortunate events from the regional, which nobody is arguing with. In fact, the only controversy here is caused by the deleted posts which now nobody can read. [FYI: most of the information provided by GraciousPro has now been reiterated by others in this thread, so you aren't missing anything. The reason they were deleted, as far as I can tell, is because the username is anonymous].

I was also on the field during the quarterfinal match with the questionable balance. I too saw the bumper leaning on the rail standing at the corner of the field in the RED 3 queue. Though, I was also excited that a triple balance happened. The atmosphere was electric, but IMHO, the call was incorrect and I think the atmosphere of the arena had something to do with it.

The technical time out was called so that the field admins could call FIRST to confer with them about the rules when our students brought up the question in an appropriate, polite manner.

The ungracious part was how our students were treated afterwards. They were ignored; their question never was answered, and matches resumed.

I would like to make it abundantly clear: The teams involved in the elimination matches aren't upset because we lost. The problem stems from the example that the volunteers set for our kids. It only takes one lack-luster attempt at conflict resolution like this one to poison the message that FIRST aims to send and curtail our students motivation before our next competition. The real tragedy in this whole debacle was that nobody attempted to explain the situation to our students, or even give an honest apology that the rules were not enforced as strictly as they should have been. The response we received from FIRST is quoted above in DAD1279's post.
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