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Originally Posted by pfreivald
I stand by my original post: even if you're 100% correct on the facts (and thus I am not), posting it here is the wrong way to deal with it.
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Originally Posted by JosephC
If you have a problem with a team, talk to them about it person to person, or PM them. The entirety of Chief Delphi doesn't need to know about it.
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Originally Posted by pfreivald
Either way, here ain't the place.
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Originally Posted by wireties
Either way, I'm with preivald, CD is not the right place.
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I must disagree with all of you on this. After an event is over and you have time to
calm down is the perfect time to discuss situations like this. Tom went about this in the best way, and left the questionable team's name and number out of the conversation (I applaud everyone else for doing the same). Did he come out and say they should be banned from competing or that their regional win should be stripped from them?
No, Tom specifically asked for our
thoughts and
previous experiences with situations like this.
Proceed to thread derail.
Everything in FIRST is not hunky-dory. Teams sometimes use questionable strategies and referees sometimes make questionable calls. We're playing basketball this year. If something questionable happened in the NBA would it be swept under the rug or would Skip Bayless aimlessly talk about it for an hour on SportsCenter? Many things get discussed in depth on CD, often on controversial topics and leading to heated discussion.
CD is FIRST's SportsCenter.
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Originally Posted by Paul Copioli
Unfortunately, incidents like the one the OP mentioned will happen and the more we communicate about it, the less misunderstanding we will have.
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Just as Tom mentioned above, Paul Copioli's comment from the Elitist thread applies here. Was there a misunderstanding of whether the robot or the control system was broken? Sure sounds like it, and discussing things like this will help teams understand that they should be more clear with information like that.
If anyone disagrees, I gladly accept PMs. The main forum is not the place to discuss the validity of a topic that is already being discussed, it only leads to further off-topic discussion.
/derail
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Originally Posted by EricH
What I am going to say is that if you have an issue with your robot, and you might be picked for eliminations, it's fair to mention that you have an issue to pickers. They'll help you to get your robot together, or will decide not to select you based on that--and if you're picked, it's to be expected that you'll get help with the issue and show up functional.
However, if you say that your robot will not run, or is otherwise completely unable to play in eliminations, and then turn up for eliminations with a fully-functional robot, you can expect some strange looks, some pointed questions, and/or some long memories in later years from teams that would have picked you and that you told that to. Hopefully, it's just that you thought the problem was worse than it actually was. If you deliberately lie to get on the alliance you want... well, you are the one that will have to live with that decision.
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Eric nailed it. Teams (as a whole) must live with the decisions made by any member of the team.