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Re: Rookie Teams in Elims

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo View Post
(By the way: Having your team lobby us to get picked won't work. We use numbers, not friendships.)
THIS. We have our team of scouts watching every single match with each one assigned to a different robot. Trust us, we have all the data on your robot.

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Originally Posted by SenorZ View Post
In my second year attending the LA Regional I've noticed a veteran team or two that ranked well into the lower half of the table get picked for eliminations over very competent newer teams.
It seems like there is a bit of cronyism mixed in with that idea that a veteran team can handle the pressure better.

Thats life though.
Again, teams collect all sorts of data on the robots. We were looking for some very specific things in our scouting this year. We don't even use the FIRST rankings because we use our own system to rank teams. Just because a team is ranked lower doesn't mean they aren't good or useful. If a team started off badly because of code/mechanical issues but improved throughout the day, we'd put them lower down on our pick list with a note to see how they do in the rest of their matches. Sometimes they got paired up with an unlucky alliance with teams who didn't show up, didn't have a robot, had a robot that didn't move, etc.

Often, teams use their 3rd pick to be their alliance's defensive robots. As was already pointed out in this thread, defensive robots typically do not seed very high. For example, our third pick at the 2006 Las Vegas Regional was team 8, who went 6-5 in the qualifications. We knew they could play some serious defense, though, which is why we picked them. I used the LV regional as my example here because it was our team's first time travelling out west so most of the teams there were unknown to us, much like a rookie is at their first event.
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