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Re: 2012 Queen City FRC Regional

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Originally Posted by Meredith Novak View Post
You mean the 829 alliance? Someone explain this bridge thing to me please?

Ok, so for those of you that didn't see the play:

2481 + 3301 were both on the red bridge. 1038 was playing defense by the red bridge. 829 was attempting to get over to the red bridge to balance, but 1038 was playing defense on them. During the playing of defense, 1038 got sandwiched between the red bridge and 829, who was straight on facing the red bridge ready to drive on . 829 pushes 1038 and they hit the corner of the bridge. No foul called. 829 backs up and gets more situated to get onto the red bridge. As 829 drives forward, they literally push 1038 onto to the red bridge. I didn't see any ref's call any foul, and the posts here make it sound like just a 3 point penalty was called, and i don't know what the 3 point penalty is for. 829 was clearly trying to make it a triple balance and 1038 interfered by getting onto the bridge.

In my opinion, 829's alliance should be in the finals.

Why? A couple of reasons. (updating/editing)

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[G28]
Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge.
Violation: Foul; Technical-Foul for purposeful, consequential contact.

This rule applied at all times, no matter who initiates the contact, see [G44].
At the very least a tech foul should be called; 3193 touching a red bot on the bridge, which they did, should result in a tech, because it was consequential.

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[G25]
Robots may not contact or otherwise interfere with the opposing Alliance Bridge.
Violation: Technical-Foul. If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match.
Another tech foul here at least. I would consider 829 attempting to get on the bridge an act of balancing. And if you don't, it still doesn't matter, because 1038 made contact with a different red robot on the bridge. Because of that, this applies: "If the act of Balancing is interfered with, also a Red Card and the Bridge will be counted as Balanced with the maximum number of Robots possible for that Match."

Conclusion: It doesn't matter if 829 was in the act of balancing, because 1038 made contact with another red robot that without question, was trying to balance. Still should be a triple balance.

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Supposedly you're not interfering with the act of balance if the balancing robot isn't touching the bridge, even if the defensive bot is. If this stands legal, i know what I'm having my alliance's defensive bot do.

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Last edited by Duke461 : 07-04-2012 at 15:31.