Quote:
Originally posted by dlavery
I'm just going to go stick my head in the oven.
Two years ago, virtually EVERY team screamed and yelled about how much they hated the 4-vs-0 scenario. It was boring, no fun, a waste of time, and not challenging. More than one team said it would be their last season specifically because there was no more "competition" in the competition. I even had one person nearly tackle me in the stands just before the awards ceremony, and practically beg me to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ask FIRST not to stick with the "complete cooperation" games.
Now here we are two years later, and all of the sudden everyone is all up in a lather about the potential situation where - GASP! - teams will all collude to ignore the "competition" and just "cooperate" to the detriment of the game.
The only way this "intentional tie problem" will happen is if all four teams decide to accept a lower score than they could by winning. If even one team decides that they might prefer to WIN and ADVANCE OVER THE OPPOSITION, then the "intentional tie" scenario fails. Given the number of teams that were present in 2001, and are still around for this year's event, I have a hard time seeing the "intentional tie" situation happening.
In other words -
- you spoke
- FIRST listened
- you got what you asked for
- what is the problem?
-dave
(unfortunately, the oven is electric, so it will just hurt a lot...)
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I think Dave means that people will not do 4-vs-0 because all of them hate it.
I think that will happen MOST times, but (as we could see in many posts here) there are some people that think to tie is good, and if they have the chance they will, and most people (the ones that don't like 4-vs-0) will not be happy about that, and (what's worse) will feel tempted to tie too, not to be lower in points.
About "what benefits the tie brings?":
The other thread about this was called "Nash Equilibrium". It was about the movie "A Beautiful Mind". There are, let's say, four guys and 5 girls. One of the girls is obviously the most beautiful. Usually, all of them would try to date the most beautiful one, and when they realize they didn't manage to do that, they will try the other ones, but those girls will be upset with the guys, so the guys don't date anyone.
But if the 4 guys talk and decide that no one will try the most beautiful one, all of them date a girl, wich is a better thing for every of them.
I hope you see the relation of this and the current subject (and maybe the reasons stated in earlier post were better).
Dave,
Stack Attack is AWESOME. Virtually
everyone loves this game. But we saw a little "bug" in the "program" and we are affraid it can cause bigger problems in the future, during the competitions.
I don't want to be boring, I'm insisting on this only because I understand that you think most people hate the complete cooperation.
All we are saying is don't give 4-vs-0 a chance.