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Originally Posted by Cory
It sounds to me like you clearly knew what you were doing and were trying to cause your opponent penalties through your actions for the sake of causing penalties, not as a byproduct of legitimate gameplay.
This is G45 in action, is it not? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you and you are not bragging about causing your opponent to take penalty points.
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My apologies, my rambling was not about causing penalties, but rather about how MAR differed from Queen City's call. Queen City was called around G25; MAR was called for G28. However, our strategy was still the same: get on the bridge. And every action any of us undertook was towards that end, or towards the end of getting/keeping the defender out of the way of that action. 25 got on the bridge [check], we attempted to follow [check] by pushing past 1218/pushing them away (into the into the the barrier+bridge+341 triangle) [check], and 341 attempted to do the same [check].
G28 exists to make defenders move if offensive robots can create the needed situation, the same way anyone picks up a ball and has to use G28 to get a clear shot on the key, or crosses into their lane uses it to load from their inbounder station. The point is not to force
penalties, but rather to force
movement via penalties/threats thereof. 1218 being over there was not a result of our actions, but rather theirs*. Their decision to stay (rather than get out/sit beside the bridge) was also their own, despite our attempts to dissuade them.
The most important part though, is the head ref aspect. Any alliances thinking of doing this at Worlds (I expect we'll see at least one) may want to check themselves very early as well to make sure everyone is prepared and understands the relevant intricacies.
*The only G45 I've ever known (not implying it's the only one) was when an defensive bot pushed a offensive bot
across the field and into their lane, repeatedly smashed them, was waved off by a ref, and came back and smashed them again.
Is that better? I hadn't intended to sound pompous. Strategy gets exciting to me.
