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Re: Possible Strategy?

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Originally Posted by Chris is me View Post
I do not believe it is bad sportsmanship to take penalties for a net gain. Especially because this isn't something like an intentional tip - this is just picking up balls.

That said, it's a pretty bad strategic decision. Three points is not enough to justify the risks. Miss one ball and it's not worth it. If you're desperate for something to do in that time, and you have already exhausted both the co-op and your alliance bridge, I'd start preparing for your first moves in the teleoperated period.
I'm working on the math, and this is what I have (With auton points):

With out taking balls (Opponents score from alliance bridge in auto):
Opponents: +12 (2 on top)
You: +0 (no advantage)
Net gain: -12

With taking balls:
Opponents: +9 (Technical foul)
You: +12 (2 on top)
Net gain: 3

Taking balls (miss shot):
Opponents: +9 (Technical foul)
You: +6 (1 on top)
Net gain: -3
However, you then have an open balls on your side that you can put up in teleop, effectively making it a wash.

Taking balls (miss both shots):
Opponents: +9 (Technical foul)
You: +0 (no advantage)
Net gain: -9
However, you then have 2 open balls on your side that you can put up in teleop, making it a net gain of -3.

It seems to me that even if you miss the shots, you still end up on the better end of things than if you get their alliance balls than if you let them sit.
It may not be a game changing move, but it may be something worth considering.
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Last edited by LeelandS : 24-04-2012 at 17:28.