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As long as the methods used to troubleshoot are anecdotal not quantifiable there's going to be increasingly tension between everyone.

There's too many possible issues, combinations of issues, and things we can't test off a competition field, and that makes sense because the robots are all different and there are different fields. It also makes sense because as we move the robots and the fields around we risk disturbing things.

The field guys are told it's not the field it's the robots.

The robot guys have exhausted all the tools they usually have, including extensive testing, and the problems continue.

This problem seems to continue into situations impacting the performance of the best of the best by elimination. It's no longer about team reputation, veteran status and whose word can be trusted (in a level playing field it should not be about that at all anyway).

There still seems to me only one fix to this problem. To find ways to test and get quantifiable evidence about each system. The field. The robots. Each and every time the problems appear while they appear. FIRST has made great strides in field and robot monitoring since Team 11 first saw communications issues last year at an off-season event and I sincerely do appreciate their efforts.

I hope that FIRST will continue to seek quanitifable information of all kinds to insure that these events move quickly, move cleanly and move with the sort of direction that can only do credit to everyone. It serves no purpose to point fingers at anyone. This is the world of science and engineering it's about the numbers and the evidence.

I still intend to let FIRST evaluate my voltage monitors and even if they only fix a small percentage of the problems by volume...that's a small percentage closer to the goal.