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Re: Letting teams know you want to pick them

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Originally Posted by ChristopherSD View Post
In regards to picking a second team, I don't think I ever asked. They should be happy they're being picked at all.
Yes, they should be. However, there's a distinct difference in where you get picked. Let's say that 1114+2056 are #1; 67+469 are #2. It's the second round. Do you hope to be picked immediately by #8 or #7, or do you pray that you slip through the cracks to the #15 and #16 picks (possibly aided by a mention to the #8 and #7 teams that you probably wouldn't accept them), so you have a chance of going with either of the top 2 alliances?

There are other reasons to ask teams if they'd accept an invitation. As noted, you can use the decline "against" them and break up powerhouse alliances. That's a risk they take by saying they'll decline. (If they decide to accept anyway--well, they should have a good reason for doing so.) You can also pre-plan strategy, third team, etc.


On the flip side (and this is for the unspecified first team picked), you can be unhappy with being picked, but if they actually did handle it the way described, then that is not a good way to handle being picked by a team you don't want to be picked by. You can decline, you can live with the acceptance--but if you're going to show your displeasure, it can drag down an alliance to know that one of the three teams doesn't want to be there. To take over an alliance from the alliance captain, without being asked to, is also not the best way to handle the situation.



On lists in general: Many teams will have three (or more) sublists. Two are short; one is long. If you're on the long list, you don't really want to be there--you want to be on the first short list. The first short list (the one you want to be on) is the list to accept/select. The other short list is the black list--you don't want to be on it. Some teams have long memories. There can be any number of reasons to put a team on a blacklist, including that they don't work well with you--but the only way to get off one is to let time take its course.
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